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Wake Up WFS - Members Speak
" w a k e . u p . w f s ! "
w r i t t e n . b y . y o u r s . t r u l y ;
W F S | M 3 M B 3 R S |
*This page is not to be deleted. It will stand forevermore to remind WFS of its hardships, and how its members conquered them *
Okay, we're nearing the end of our Scavenger Hunt.
So heres one if your remaining clues, look where the wolves can be taken to new wonderful homes.
As you know, WFS isn't like what it used to be. Everything is falling apart...and many members are tired of it.
30 letters that WFS Members have taken there time to write. All full of ideas - complaints - ways to help the site.
Please take these into note.
Please take these into note.
P.S. They are kinda long. But, are full of the truth ;)
l e t t e r o n e ;
There is no way WFS will make it out alive if everyone keeps doing this. You guys are driving each other mad. I have never seen so many people hurt, and just leave, because of what people say. Think before you say. Don't do before you just take a while to think. I don't know how many people over the years, here have been driving away, to never come back. It's sickening. Horrid. Disgusting. People, you need to learn to know when to stop, and pick yourself up. We are FRIENDS for lifes sake. I know this site is stressful, and drives you to the point where you want to kill someone. I've experienced it. I know. So many simple threads have been taken the complete wrong direction. Guys, it's not worth it. I know Sparrowheart made this site for fun. And wouldn't enjoy seeing her whole site being torn apart, just because people can't seem to get along. It's fight after fight. I mean come on people. And some wonder why I left. People wonder why people like Howlingstar, Smokefrost, Lunafur, all of those people who used to help run our site are now....gone. They must have left for some reason.
Yall need to listen to each other, talk to each other. I just hate seeing members fight. It's just, makes me want to barf. I don't know how many times I will have to say this, until it will get into everyone's head. Stop the fighting. Maybe then, WFS would stop going downhill. People would come back. Someday, it could be just like the Golden Days. Now, wouldn't that be nice? Everyone, including myself, have been ranting on and on about how much they miss those wonderful days. There was rarely ever fighting, well, not as much ;). It was pretty much freedom. Now, it feels like if you move an inch, bang your dead. Maybe, if we actually tried, we could bring it back. If we all worked together instead of fighting. We can bring back those memories we call Golden.
Don't get me wrong, there will always be some type of fight. But, here, its like FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! Really? It's like almost impossible to see this site go a week without some tragic fight. It's not only the Mods+ that need to wake up, everyone. Everyone needs to wake up and see that this site is going down. I've said that line so many times in the past year. Wake up, really. IT'S HAPPENING. WFS IS DYING. If no one wants to see that happen, i suggest everyone work together and help out. Not just one or two every now and then, everyone. And something to just think about, this site is really not worth crying or getting mad over. It does happen, but that can be changed. I don't like to see people crying, and have to go to the hospital. People have committed suicide, they have gone into depression, all because of some Warriors site. Now, if a new member came and viewed WFS and saw that, do you think they would join? Heck no. They'd be scared. I know its just not me who hates fighting. Many members I know are tired of this fighting. They are tired of waking up to yet again, another fight.
People, please. Can we try to get along? WFS needs your help. And, fighting certainly won't help. Every second there is another fight, is another second you COULD be helping. Another second WFS COULD be surviving. A second may not seem like anything, but it is. I just hope this could get people thinking. This is nothing to fight over. I am stating my opinion, and honestly, I don't see a reason to fight. I am not blaming people, pointing fingers. I am doing nothing but stating what I believe. And, at this point, there is NO use in pointing and blaming. Right now, it's everyone's fault. And everyone can help. So, please stop the fighting. Guys, breath. Like i said, it's not worth it.
I know before I left, I had one last favor for WFS. And, that was to remember me. I know I wanted to be remembered by many things. For being a Administrator, a leader, Top Contributor, the first person to reach 20,000....And, people did. People have remembered me. And, I thank-you for that. But, I really could care less now. I have another favor. Wanna know? Well, better listen closely because this will be the last time I'm coming on to rant about this. For me, help WFS. Gather yourselves up, and work with each other. Please. I don't know what else I can ask for. Thanks for reading this, if you read all of it. I would write more, because, let me tell you...I have A LOT of feelings about this site. Good things and bad. I just want you guys to know that, WFS DOES need everyone of you. And, fighting won't helping.
More and more people are leaving, making WFS fall even more. What ever happened to that goal, beat WCC2! I remember people would go on and on about that. That goal suddenly vanished. And, I have a new goal. That is to get WFS back up there. Stop the fighting, and one day we MAY be WCC2. We MAY be number one, and the Golden Days MAY come back. But you know what, they doesn't just happen. It takes work. And, it only takes one person to step up and start that. One person to lead us, and the rest will shortly follow after. Once again, please take this into note. Use the goal, and my favor. I love WFS, and every single one of you. And I'd hate to see if perish. Just remember, awards don't just come free. It takes time, and hard work. And, we don't have much time to waste. I love all of you to death. Good luck in the future. WFS WFS!
------l e t t e r o n e - p a r t t w o
Why do I keep coming back,
Why can't I go away?
Why can I never find the right words to say?
Why can't I just learn to forget,
Why do I honestly care?
Why can't life ever be fair?
Why can't I just find the truth in life,
and throw away the lies?
Why can't I just say my goodbyes?
Why must it be so hard?
Why can I never find the answers to these questions,
all I need are a few suggestions.
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I honestly don't know why I keep coming here. All anyone ever does is fight. It's so stupid. I told myself before I wouldn't come back. Oops, look who lied. I don't need Wetpaint. No one does. I've already found another place where I can have fun. No fighting. Just fun. And - heck, I can go there any second. Warriors Fansite has changed me so much - and not particularly in a good way. It seems like this Fairy Tale won't have a happy ending after all. I don't know how many members have said for everyone to clean up their act. I'm honestly sickened by how this site has changed over 2 years. Well - this wasn't supposed to be a rant about Warriors Fansite. But - I guess it is now. I really do hate myself for even coming here. I really do. It seems like a whole big waste. A disappointment. There has been riots and riots for people do change. For someone to step up and take charge. Weeks pass, still - nothing. I really thought by making that "Wake Up WFS" page - it would get people thinking. Well - it may got people to think - but not to act. What will it take to get people to help out around here? I mean really. I'm just tired of seeing this site sit here. It's dropping every second. Every second is just another second it could be rising. Yet - it's not. This isn't just about the Mods+, because hey, they do work their butts off...It's about everyone. Anyone can stand up and take charge. Or at least try. At this point,
WFS needs ANY TYPE OF FRICKEN help. Even if it's the smallest. I would stand up and try to help - but I don't know how that would come out. I really don't want to do something like that. There has been many great leaders here - who are just sitting there - not being listened to. Echodapple, Pearlpelt, Ambersky...They've been apart of the Staff for who knows how long. They are all friendly, and are always looking out for others. They have sacrificed SO much for this site. Can they at least get a thank-you? Many people have done so much..and yet - people seem to ignore them, and treat them like they are nothing. Many great opportunity's have come in the past 2 years. But every time, they were thrown away. Those 3 members deserve the best. In my opinion. Like I said, they have done SO much. And the best they can get is a thank-you. Very few members ever thank the people who have actually done things for this site. WFS really needs a clean up. Well hey - what about a clean up crew? That has been thrown out there for many months - and, still, no response. The Staff Suggestions was a great idea. I must give you that - but oh my gosh. It was taking FOREVER for you guys to promote them. I had to promote Mossheart96, because it was taking to long. I don't even think everyone was promoted yet, still. WFS is loosing great members every day. Another family member. Another friend. Another helper. Can't anyone get it through their skulls, WFS needs help? I'm so freaking tired of it. NO ONE CARES. No one seems to care at all. RU's, Writers. You guys feel like you are being left out..why? Poppyscar posted a thread where you could tell the Mods+ why. I still don't think a lot of you came out with the truth. Many of you guys have AWESOME ideas. Share them. Tell the Mods+ exactly what you think they are doing wrong - so they can fix it. If anyone has something to say,
don't just keep it back. Mods+, another suggestion...I know that ever since I brought up the Workmen idea...it was left to ponder. I know many people wanted to have the Bosses and Workmen again. It would be so much more organized, and all of the pages would be updated. But now, only half the Writers+ edit pages. The whole idea of being a writer is to EDIT PAGES. Most of the writers+ only have a few edits. Anyone can post a thread. Just click the thread button and type in some letters! But - only a few 40 people get to actually have the chance to edit pages. And most of you are throwing it away - like its not a big deal. You're leaving the people who actually edit pages, with more work. More work is more stress. If you guys do, do the Bosses-Workmen, you need to make sure people are really doing their job. A lot of you I think are just really pushing it. Being lazy. Not wanting to help out. Being a Writer+ is a privilege, not a punishment. Some of you need to start treating it that way. Mods+, people look up to you. When the RU's-Writers see how you act, they will copy you. This isn't directed to anyone honestly, just Mods+ in general. You guys need to start acting like Mods+. Work together. To the best for WFS. If you can't simply help out, and pitch in, then seriously, STEP DOWN. Very few ever try to help anymore. Back to the 3 people. Ambersky, Echodapple, Pearlpelt. Now - those are people who I call real Mods and Admins. They respect the members. They help out. Give ideas. They are serious when needed, but they still know how to have fun. They are good listeners - and speakers. They speak the truth. WFS needs people like them. Why can't anyone just see that? Open your eyes people. Take it, while your given the chance. Without people like them, WFS wouldn't BE number 4. It would have never had a chance against WCC2. It wouldn't be so famous. I don't blame Smokefrost, Lunafur, Howlingstar, Leopardfur, Lightstreak........
Skybreeze, all of those people who were great leaders..all of those people who made WFS what it is today - I don't blame them for leaving. In my eyes, they made the right choice. Mods+, I know you've seen these letters. I know you've read them...if you think we're right, we'll that's up to you. My point is, you guys really need to step it up and act like real Mods. Writers+, help out with pages. Not just threads. I know Role Playing is the whole point of this site - but the pages are important too. RU's, give your ideas. Suggestions. Ways to help. All of you need to work together. Not just one part - or two. All four. Admins, Mods, Writers, and RU's. If one stops helping, the site will die in no time. Work together, and stop fighting. Listen to one another. Have open arms, help each other when life is tough. School has started - and the drama is going to be much too high. But, everyone can survive the rough times together. That's what friends are for. I don't know how many times I have had to rant and rant for hours about this. This place is where many good and bad things have happened. Many friendships were made. Many laughs. Great times. Do you want to just watch this place crash and burn? This site is the reason why most of us are now friends. Why I am now writing this letter. This place has made us family. And - I know I don't want to watch it die. Some of you may want it to fall, but that's not me. Before I leave I'm going to make sure this place is in good hands. I'm going to try to help, because I can. I'm not going to throw the chance away, like many of you. I have loved being a Staff Member. I have tried my best to be the best Writer-Mod-Admin I could ever be. I'm not going to let this be a punishment - but a reward. I have worked so hard to get the role of an Admin. I did it. I was really happy. But - I threw it away. I left, and I know that was a mistake. When I came back ....
I worked hard more and more - until I was made an Admin once more. Again, I stepped down. I have thrown away the opportunity of helping leading this site - when most don't even become a writer. I know what I'm talking about in this thread, because I know I have made those wrong decisions. I really don't want anyone else following me down the wrong road - to the dead end. Making the bad choices I once did. All I want to say - is, I'm sorry for the bad things I've done in the past. I could have been a better person, and stayed to help out. I left this site in the worst. When I left a few weeks ago - I left because of the fighting. I was done hoping for the Golden Days to come back. But now - I've realized, by me leaving, it won't help. If I leave, or anyone leaves, its just another loss. Someone else who could help out - and stand up. Be a good person, and make the right choices. I came back, because I know running away from my problems just won't help. I need WFS - and WFS needs me. But, everyone does leave eventually. But - I know I'm not going to be known as the person who ran away from her fights. Before I leave, I want to be in the GOOD history, and not the bad. I want to be known for the good things I've done. Like I said in a thread before - It only takes one person to start a war, and one person to end it. Only one person needs to step up, and lead WFS away from the dead end, and to another road. A road where WFS will be a better place, like it once was. If one person steps up, hopefully everyone will follow. I'm really getting tired of writing 6,000+ character threads. But - i'll do whatever it takes to make WFS like it was before. The Golden Days may never come back - but we can make something better. Something people will remember. Mabzy, Echo, Earl, keep being you. You guys are great, amazing influences. I love you WFS. I really do.
That was just around 16,000 characters of a letter. WFS - Wake Up.
Sandfang
------l e t t e r o n e - p a r t t w o
Why do I keep coming back,
Why can't I go away?
Why can I never find the right words to say?
Why can't I just learn to forget,
Why do I honestly care?
Why can't life ever be fair?
Why can't I just find the truth in life,
and throw away the lies?
Why can't I just say my goodbyes?
Why must it be so hard?
Why can I never find the answers to these questions,
all I need are a few suggestions.
---
I honestly don't know why I keep coming here. All anyone ever does is fight. It's so stupid. I told myself before I wouldn't come back. Oops, look who lied. I don't need Wetpaint. No one does. I've already found another place where I can have fun. No fighting. Just fun. And - heck, I can go there any second. Warriors Fansite has changed me so much - and not particularly in a good way. It seems like this Fairy Tale won't have a happy ending after all. I don't know how many members have said for everyone to clean up their act. I'm honestly sickened by how this site has changed over 2 years. Well - this wasn't supposed to be a rant about Warriors Fansite. But - I guess it is now. I really do hate myself for even coming here. I really do. It seems like a whole big waste. A disappointment. There has been riots and riots for people do change. For someone to step up and take charge. Weeks pass, still - nothing. I really thought by making that "Wake Up WFS" page - it would get people thinking. Well - it may got people to think - but not to act. What will it take to get people to help out around here? I mean really. I'm just tired of seeing this site sit here. It's dropping every second. Every second is just another second it could be rising. Yet - it's not. This isn't just about the Mods+, because hey, they do work their butts off...It's about everyone. Anyone can stand up and take charge. Or at least try. At this point,
WFS needs ANY TYPE OF FRICKEN help. Even if it's the smallest. I would stand up and try to help - but I don't know how that would come out. I really don't want to do something like that. There has been many great leaders here - who are just sitting there - not being listened to. Echodapple, Pearlpelt, Ambersky...They've been apart of the Staff for who knows how long. They are all friendly, and are always looking out for others. They have sacrificed SO much for this site. Can they at least get a thank-you? Many people have done so much..and yet - people seem to ignore them, and treat them like they are nothing. Many great opportunity's have come in the past 2 years. But every time, they were thrown away. Those 3 members deserve the best. In my opinion. Like I said, they have done SO much. And the best they can get is a thank-you. Very few members ever thank the people who have actually done things for this site. WFS really needs a clean up. Well hey - what about a clean up crew? That has been thrown out there for many months - and, still, no response. The Staff Suggestions was a great idea. I must give you that - but oh my gosh. It was taking FOREVER for you guys to promote them. I had to promote Mossheart96, because it was taking to long. I don't even think everyone was promoted yet, still. WFS is loosing great members every day. Another family member. Another friend. Another helper. Can't anyone get it through their skulls, WFS needs help? I'm so freaking tired of it. NO ONE CARES. No one seems to care at all. RU's, Writers. You guys feel like you are being left out..why? Poppyscar posted a thread where you could tell the Mods+ why. I still don't think a lot of you came out with the truth. Many of you guys have AWESOME ideas. Share them. Tell the Mods+ exactly what you think they are doing wrong - so they can fix it. If anyone has something to say,
don't just keep it back. Mods+, another suggestion...I know that ever since I brought up the Workmen idea...it was left to ponder. I know many people wanted to have the Bosses and Workmen again. It would be so much more organized, and all of the pages would be updated. But now, only half the Writers+ edit pages. The whole idea of being a writer is to EDIT PAGES. Most of the writers+ only have a few edits. Anyone can post a thread. Just click the thread button and type in some letters! But - only a few 40 people get to actually have the chance to edit pages. And most of you are throwing it away - like its not a big deal. You're leaving the people who actually edit pages, with more work. More work is more stress. If you guys do, do the Bosses-Workmen, you need to make sure people are really doing their job. A lot of you I think are just really pushing it. Being lazy. Not wanting to help out. Being a Writer+ is a privilege, not a punishment. Some of you need to start treating it that way. Mods+, people look up to you. When the RU's-Writers see how you act, they will copy you. This isn't directed to anyone honestly, just Mods+ in general. You guys need to start acting like Mods+. Work together. To the best for WFS. If you can't simply help out, and pitch in, then seriously, STEP DOWN. Very few ever try to help anymore. Back to the 3 people. Ambersky, Echodapple, Pearlpelt. Now - those are people who I call real Mods and Admins. They respect the members. They help out. Give ideas. They are serious when needed, but they still know how to have fun. They are good listeners - and speakers. They speak the truth. WFS needs people like them. Why can't anyone just see that? Open your eyes people. Take it, while your given the chance. Without people like them, WFS wouldn't BE number 4. It would have never had a chance against WCC2. It wouldn't be so famous. I don't blame Smokefrost, Lunafur, Howlingstar, Leopardfur, Lightstreak........
Skybreeze, all of those people who were great leaders..all of those people who made WFS what it is today - I don't blame them for leaving. In my eyes, they made the right choice. Mods+, I know you've seen these letters. I know you've read them...if you think we're right, we'll that's up to you. My point is, you guys really need to step it up and act like real Mods. Writers+, help out with pages. Not just threads. I know Role Playing is the whole point of this site - but the pages are important too. RU's, give your ideas. Suggestions. Ways to help. All of you need to work together. Not just one part - or two. All four. Admins, Mods, Writers, and RU's. If one stops helping, the site will die in no time. Work together, and stop fighting. Listen to one another. Have open arms, help each other when life is tough. School has started - and the drama is going to be much too high. But, everyone can survive the rough times together. That's what friends are for. I don't know how many times I have had to rant and rant for hours about this. This place is where many good and bad things have happened. Many friendships were made. Many laughs. Great times. Do you want to just watch this place crash and burn? This site is the reason why most of us are now friends. Why I am now writing this letter. This place has made us family. And - I know I don't want to watch it die. Some of you may want it to fall, but that's not me. Before I leave I'm going to make sure this place is in good hands. I'm going to try to help, because I can. I'm not going to throw the chance away, like many of you. I have loved being a Staff Member. I have tried my best to be the best Writer-Mod-Admin I could ever be. I'm not going to let this be a punishment - but a reward. I have worked so hard to get the role of an Admin. I did it. I was really happy. But - I threw it away. I left, and I know that was a mistake. When I came back ....
I worked hard more and more - until I was made an Admin once more. Again, I stepped down. I have thrown away the opportunity of helping leading this site - when most don't even become a writer. I know what I'm talking about in this thread, because I know I have made those wrong decisions. I really don't want anyone else following me down the wrong road - to the dead end. Making the bad choices I once did. All I want to say - is, I'm sorry for the bad things I've done in the past. I could have been a better person, and stayed to help out. I left this site in the worst. When I left a few weeks ago - I left because of the fighting. I was done hoping for the Golden Days to come back. But now - I've realized, by me leaving, it won't help. If I leave, or anyone leaves, its just another loss. Someone else who could help out - and stand up. Be a good person, and make the right choices. I came back, because I know running away from my problems just won't help. I need WFS - and WFS needs me. But, everyone does leave eventually. But - I know I'm not going to be known as the person who ran away from her fights. Before I leave, I want to be in the GOOD history, and not the bad. I want to be known for the good things I've done. Like I said in a thread before - It only takes one person to start a war, and one person to end it. Only one person needs to step up, and lead WFS away from the dead end, and to another road. A road where WFS will be a better place, like it once was. If one person steps up, hopefully everyone will follow. I'm really getting tired of writing 6,000+ character threads. But - i'll do whatever it takes to make WFS like it was before. The Golden Days may never come back - but we can make something better. Something people will remember. Mabzy, Echo, Earl, keep being you. You guys are great, amazing influences. I love you WFS. I really do.
That was just around 16,000 characters of a letter. WFS - Wake Up.
Sandfang
l e t t e r t w o ;
I remember when all we wanted to be was important and just have fun and roleplay warriors. We used to have so many random ideas and we listened to everyone and we didn't have such MAJOR plots for clan wide, but plots within the clan, like the bobcat one, random attacking, badgers, foxes, stuff like the books and all and when leaders, medicine cats and deputies had to check in 2 times a week to keep them active. Well, now a lot of medicine cats are inactive and whenever they are needed, they poof! and some don't even know their herbs and stuff! AND most of them are played by writers+. We should actually LET everyone have a chance! I mean, we cant be so stuck up in our own world that we don't notice others around us that deserve just as much as we do!
Before, we fought minor and usually it was for the good of the site and clans and stuff, but now we fight for stupid reasons and attack others who don't have a high position like "you" or cant ban you and stuff. NO ONE listens to the rules, as in everyone swears and uses foul language on the chats. We aren't very supportive of each other at times and stuff like the rules said! AND we aren't being very realistic nowadays, are we? = =
Before, we fought minor and usually it was for the good of the site and clans and stuff, but now we fight for stupid reasons and attack others who don't have a high position like "you" or cant ban you and stuff. NO ONE listens to the rules, as in everyone swears and uses foul language on the chats. We aren't very supportive of each other at times and stuff like the rules said! AND we aren't being very realistic nowadays, are we? = =
People, cats.don't.get.raped = = The female LETS the male mate her or they wouldn't at all cos the female would actually fight back! The female HAS to let the male or they wouldn't mate at all or it would be unsuccessful! AND kits cant be all bloody and hurt and join the camp at 2 moons age, they would DIE! AND there MUST be a nursing queen to take care of them, or they would ALSO die. The kits ONLY start eating solids or semi-solids and playing and talking around 4 moons and they don't start talking perfect English at the age of 1 day = = Its going to be like a baby at teh age of 1 starts talking perfectly in every language or something. IMPOSSIBLE.
Then the medicine cats actually HAVE TO RP when others get hurt, they cant be off in lalaland playing with rainbow ponies. They HAVE to be active and check threads with big ATTACK signs and stuff.
AND the prey and hunting pages? WE NEVER USE THEM ANYMORE EXCEPT FOR A FEW PEOPLE. How come our cats don't eat or do their duties and just sit there like they're waiting to be lavishly fed? Are they now kittypets? NO. You guys MUST hunt and do patrols. That's why this site ISN'T MUCH of a WARRIORS fansite anymore IF we aren't doing our jobs, am I correct? Do the warriors in the books just sit there in camp being bored all day or do they spend their time talking or hunting or doing something useful?
APPRENTICES = =
They don't just hunt and sit there and sleep all day!! They have to bring moss and prey to the medicine dens and to the elders and queens!! They aren't just some idle kits pretending to be half warriors! They have their JOBS!
THEN
the leaders should actually RP some of the apprentice/warrior ceremonies at times, if you do, then ok, good job, I mean, sometimes, we make kits apprentices when they're JUST BORN = = Someone should keep track of the apprentices and kits who've been there for a decent amount of time made to warriors and such! and the elders should be able to tell stories to kits or something, as they have a job as well!
OUR CATS ARE NOT INVINCIBLE
We cant keep them for a year here and still have them healthy young warriors! THEY GET OLD and they either die or retire to the elders den! That's why it gets too crowded sometimes! WE HAVE TO KILL SOME CATS SOMETIME! The rules clearly state NO INVINCIBLE CATS and stuff, and some "cats" seem to have super powers nowadays and suck blood or something. Some cats are bloodthirsty, but they don't drink cat blood, they only eat prey, and they might try to kill a cat, but not suck their blood or something.
AND they don't have magical powers or something = = THANK YOU AND there MUST be some random disaster at times, like a badger attack. There cant always be peace and quiet in camp, and we must do patrols as well and stuff! Rouges and other clans CAN ATTACK and no one would notice!! Its just....UGH
THEN there is this whole grudge thing against each other. Its almost like there is a....crowning system or something that makes ppl feel like theyre BETTER than someone = = THAT'S JUST PREJUDICED. I mean, if you're proud of being a mod or something, fine, but you cant just start treating writers and RUs like crap and dust, cos THEY MAKE HALF THE POPULATION. They are NORMAL HUMANS for pete's sake!! WE ARE TOO!! AND others, WE.HAVE.LIVES. We cant stay here 24/7 all the time! THIS ISN'T OUR JOBS, cos if it was, I would've never joined! I only joined cos I wanted to RP warriors!!
AND we base our writer/modship TOO MUCH on friendship. I mean, just cos theyre ur BFF doesn't mean they HAVE to have a high position, I mean, there are a lot of HARDWORKING RUs here, Stellardancer, Jewelstar, etc. they're all very active here, and I think Bracken should be a mod, he deserves it well enough as long as he doesn't spam our mails. I mean, we tell them to EARN it, but no one really is EARNING, are they? We just promote cos of friends or something! I mean, Stellar is very hardworking and she helps the adoption place A LOT and nowadays, most of my edits are all cos I ask Jewelz, and Blissfulspeck also deserved it before, she was an amazing contributor. I don't ask for them to be writers now, since we're having all these problems with promoting and demoting, but still, some of the RUs deserve our positions more than we do! I think A LOT of RUs and writers, Bracken, Mouse, etc. deserve my place! AND there's the thing about ATTACKING others.
AND WE DON'T ATTACK OTHERS!! I mean, just cos we don't like them doesn't mean we attack them and make sure they never get a position! We CANT hold grudges forever! Its soooo unfair for the member and guess what they would do? JOIN ANOTHER SITE AND MAYBE BE THE HIGHEST CONTRIBUTOR THERE~ and WE HAD A CHANCE and maybe LOST IT!!! ITS SO STUPID!!!
AND WE keep sayin we're gna fix it, but have you noticed? WE"RE BECOMING LAZY?!?!?!? We never finish activity checks, we never finish contests, and we procrastinate like HECK. I already feel GUILTY for not being able to edit and to make Jewelz help meh edit and stuff!! THIS IS WHAT BRINGS SITES DOWN!! WE HAVE A WHOLE SUMMER and stuff! We're the mods in charge of here and we don't do ANYTHING!! Then we get mad at those who DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Well a wake up call here, ITS GOING DOWN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT AND THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO BUT WE KEEP STOPPING OURSELVES COS WERE LAZY!! YESH, LAZY!! HEAR THAT?!? WE CAN FIX IT BUT WE DONT BECAUSE OF LAZINESS AND COS WE HOLD GRUDGES AND FIGHT FOR STUPID THINGS!! AND WHENEVER SOMEONE SPEAKS OUT, WE GET PISSED AND ATTACK AND BAN OR SOMETHING STUPID!! ITS RETARDED AND ITS BRINGING US DOWN!!
WFS Moderator,
Saphirepool
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l e t t e r t h r e e ;
Newsflash. But it is. As a Moderator+ I overlooked that.
For those of you who don't know, I was [so-called] WFS's top admin for a while. I worked hard for that position. I left and had it taken away. Currently, I have been trying to earn it back but let me tell you it seems impossible. Moderators - You tend to ignore the Writers and RU's. You look down on us, like we aren't important, or not good enough, not active enough, just not enough. This is mean. And unfair. We work hard with what we do.
I have sent the Mods+ messages about completing the banner contest as well as the activity check. Do you realize that a writer is doing that? Because you failed to do your job? I don't mind doing it - but that's a Mod+'s job. Not a writer who apparently doesn't even deserve to be Moderator, or Administrator.
RU's are ignored. Writers are ignored. Heck - I was ignored as a Moderator AND as an Admin. What is so darn[I wanted to use a different word if you catch my drift] important that you can't care about the people who make this site what it is!? If the RU's left you would have nothing. And maybe that's what should happen if you can't clean up your act.
This thread is not a plea for promotion - yet a plea for you to work harder. I realize you all have lives. Crazy lives, but if you can't handle picking up the slack - ask to be demoted this very second or work your butt off until this site is better.
Thank you for reading, but don't just read this message, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Echodapple,
Former Administrator
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I'm no mod hater,but I will say this thing,someone wrote a famous sentence: " Happy families are all alike,every unappy family is unhappy in it's own way." I know literature is boring,but for once,it has a point.
RUs and writers against Mods and admins.
Mods,you do have a point,an overwhelming family of 3000 members all editing this site is just too much,without order,everything will mess up.
However,you can stop us RUs and writers from editing everything,but whenever we get a shouting message and a DO NOT REPLY in the face,it makes us feel mad,like we can't do anything and are the sooner rid of,the better.The mods are sick of us.
But if we look from the mods' point.They got something too,let the writer family grow and you get a super unorganized,out of control site.Try to keep down the 3000 of us is depressing, mods are leaving all the time because it's almost impossible trying to be the leader of over 3000,each one with a different opinion.
So,like a modern,21st centry batle,Atom Smasher vs. Nuculei Bomb.Nobody wins the war,both gets hurt.
So MAYBE,we should BOTH calm down,stop the developing problem:WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT GOALS AND OPINIONS,every member of our WFS family is unhappy in our own way.
So DEFINATELY we should do something about,some one thing that can make all of us,from RU to top admin,happy together.
Thank you if you didn't abandon this and read to this sentence,but don't just read it,DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
WFS writer,
Stillriver
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Please read it. I used kind words and such so its not mean :D
The RUs have been ignored and left out a lot and its not fair to them. Thats why the leave because they feel less important and That there is no use of them. The only way to make this site work if we bring everyone back together and working together. You cant just make someone a mod because they are your friend, or you cant just make someone an admin because they helped you at some point. Dude if you aren't made a mod or admin live with it, Thats life sometimes you lose but dont give up! keep working ahead! Just try harder next time! The WHOLE reason the site came down is because people who should have never become mods or admins did, and when they lose that position they get angry. I'm not pointing fingers of anything But I want the old site back when everyone was friends, there was no drama and everyone didn't get worked up all the time. We need People who Will make the right choice To pick good Admins and mods who will do what they have to do.just because you are an admin or mod doesn't mean you are amazing, It mean s you have to do work and help around the site
A member who misses The old site
and wants it back..
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Okay, I almost left the site cause I was getting discouraged that I wasn't getting promoted, even though there were writers that had less contributions than me. I now know that was wrong.
Not getting promoted doesn't mean the site doesn't need or care about you. It just means that there are people on this site that work a little harder and are more active. This is the only solution:
1.Be more active
If you want to get promoted, then DONT ASK. That is the #1 fatal mistake that most of us do. The only way to get promoted is to WORK HARD!!!!
Now on to another subject.
I agree that some moderators and administrators are "attacking" the writers and RU's. This happened on a site with my friend. She made me an adim. but said I had to get her permission to edit stuff; stuff that she said needed to be edited. I can understand how editing the Clan and Pack pages are monitored, but I mean, why can't writers edit pages like the Home Page, Adoption Center, ect. For example, the Adoption center. I don't think it's fair to judge if a writer+ should be able to edit by making them add 7+ cats. It should be judged by their activeness.
Mods and admins, you better shape up.
Put yourself into our shoes for once.
Remember Thunder. She left cause she thought nobody cared for her. I can understand now why she left....
This site is dying and nobody really cares.
Think about it.
You may say, "WTF is she talking about?!?!? I CARE!!!"
But do you?
If we cared, we would CHANGE people! C'mon!!!
That is all (for now)
:( we need the old WFS back with Thunder, Sparrow, and EVERYBODY else.
(shadey, Pants, ect.)
A member who is losing her grip.
*Featherstream*
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I agree that this site is falling apart but do you think if sparrowheart came back and looked at what we are doing to each other, that she would be fine with it? No. She wouldn't. Sparrowheart left this site in our hands and expected us to take care of it, not turn it into a drama-filled disaster. I don't have anything against mods or admin's but if you guys could just stop for a second at least and put yourselves in a writer/RU's shoes then maybe youll see where we're coming from. Instead of everyone complaining and moping, lets do something about this and look at this period of time as a life lesson.
~Littleriver~
Writtin as
~WFS REGISTERED USER~
Currently:Wfs Admin.
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Ive only been a member on this site for 7 months, but I started doing RPing and stuff 4 or 5 months ago. I havnt been on WFS for a long time, but long enough to know whats happening here. This site is growing closer and closer to being nothing beacause of many reasons. People who do send hate mail and be mean to other members are just being bullies and mean. And they should be banned, but if you get sent hate mail dont send anything back to them thats rude because that makes you the same as them, a bully. Just like most of the people above me, I agree that some RU's are ignored, yet some are not. RU's feel as if they are nothing! Thier feel ignored..all they want is to be appricated, just like me.We should be treated equally, even though some are Moderators+ we shouldnt be treated badly and be ignored just cause we are a lower position! We should all be friends, and we shouldnt pick favorites. We need to do something about this mess, if we want to make it through.
And this is coming from me, and a Writer. I was just recently promoted but before that I saw that I was more active than some of the writers here. Ive seen many writers+ that arent even active. I did feel ignored at times, and yes I did like Im nothing..but inside I know becoming someone on WFS is worth the hard work, and now I found out it was worth it. I was nominated to be promoted to be a writer, and I hoped the Mods+ will promote me, and they did but I just wanna say to you guys who might quit cause your not being promoted, -Just stay with it, if you do you will have a big chance of being a writer+ You have to believe in yourself and be confident about it! I wasnt at first but now I know..so NEVER give up- =]
Remember RU's your a HUGE part of WFS...and dont forget it :)
kelsiedude WFS Writer
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I haven't been on WFS the longest of times, but I know what it feels to have a big site. Not 3,000 members, but still, BIG. I'm Morningstar1 on Warrior Cat Wish, a site that has 320 members right now. I remember the good old days of my own site. Normal number of members, decent flowing roleplay thoughout the clans, little troubles. Until the site hit 100 members, it started getting a bit difficult. We had some members that just totally... hurt both me and the site. I would go on WCW everyday, constantly wanting to get on because it was important to me and I knew that it was ME that had to deal with it. ME that had to take care of the members. ME that had to add new members and take care of all the page editing.
As we reached 150 members I started getting more tired. New members were rapidly joining and I didn't have a whole bunch of time to add them and answer their questions. So I created another warriors site, Warrior Cat Role-play. I thought of it just as another little site to have. But really, it was a getaway. I needed a break from the drama of WCW. I hardly ever showed up on WCW after I started working on my new site. Then one day, when I realized it was WCW's 1st year anniversery, I went on. I couldn't tell you how many messages had piled up in my inbox. Members asking to join, members asking where are I was, members messaging me that were kits when I used to be on that were now old warriors.
I sent messages apologizing and saying I'd try to be on with all my effort. But I never came on. I was... almost scared. Cause I knew I couldn't deal with it. I was happy with my other site, and I wished to leave it like that. I nice, friendly, dainty, perfect sized site that had no issues. But then I thought of the night I first created WCW. How ecstatic I was and how I jumped up and danced when I saw that I had a first member two weeks later. It made me terribly sad tha I'd come all that way and now all of it just... dropped I guess. So when the site now had about 200 members, I came back on again. I looked at all the sloppy pages and I couldn't take it. I started to try going on at a more daily basis, cleaning and polishing pages, restarting the clans so WCW would be fresh again and at least a little better. At least it made me feel better... But before I knew it, I was back to not going on, then going on, not going on, then going on AGAIN.
I know what you're thinking. "Why is she just talking all about HER site and not the issues on WFS?"
I'm saying this because I do know what it feels like. I know what it feels like to run a HUGE site and it IS overwhelming. It drives me up and down walls and it is a lot of work. Especially cause I now have two sites that I'm trying to take care of. But here's the thing: I'm speaking not to the writers, not to the mods, not to the admins; but to the Registered Users. I'm telling you that if you are complaining, that it IS HARD. I know some of you are being mistreated, and hey, of course I don't like that. But it IS FRUSTRATING. And the mods and admins know that taking care of a whole site, I'm sure. But I just wanted to tell YOU, WFS, my story. I'm one RU of WFS.
I'm not just saying that all writers, mods, and admins just see every RU on here lower than them and absolutely nothing to the site. Cause guess what? RUs ARE the site. In every way, shape and form, WFS would be nothing without them.
But here's my next point: (I know this letter's LONG...)
Promotions most of the time push RUs aside and all though it makes you feel proud of yourself, RUs may never feel like they're good enough to become that person everyone on the site knows. When I join a big site like this, I always wonder if I'll ever be good enough to become that person everyone knows. A writer, a mod, even an admin.
I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense much, WFS, but I felt I needed to say SOMETHING. I like to share what I feel and what I think and what I know.
Moonglowza, Registered User of WFS
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As a moderator of WFS, I know what it's like to have to go through a lot of messages, to deal with a lot of stress, and to be in a lot of fights. To live the dream you have to work hard, and right now, I'm not sure if I'm living part of my dream. I love WFS, and it tears me to pieces to see everyone fighting. I just wish that we could all get together, that we could discuss our problems calmly and reasonably, and to listen to everyone's ideas, but apparently, we are incapable of doing that. WFS is my life, it truly is. I put 110% into everything, even fictional sites with fictional cats that have fictional kits and mates and then die, fighting for their fictional clan. Yeah, it sounds ridiculous, but I'm young, it doesn't matter, I can use my imagination. :)
The thing I'm trying to say, though, is even though you have a lot of contributions, and you're active, doesn't mean you're EVER going to be promoted into a writer. You might stay an RU the whole time you're on WFS, cuz face it. Not all of the moderators are going to leave! do you think we're juwst going to poof, and move over so you guys can be moderators and writers? No, and most of us won't become an admin afterwards. You might not get promoted, and be happy. Most high ranked sites are private, like Cinderpaw and Lunastar's Quest. But we aren't, so it's an honor just being an RU, and getting to meet the wonderful people you do on here.
r o l e p l a y
Do you realize this roleplay is very fictoinal? Here are some key things I don't see people roleplaying on here.
Imperfect cats.
Cats that guard the clan.
Apprentices that stay up all night for their denmates to come back from a gathering to tell them all about it.
Border fights.
Prey being hunted on another clan's territory.
Patrols. Even though we have them, nobody actually RPs them!
i n c o r r e c t r o l e p l a y
No Emo cats. Cats aren't emo.
Of course we need cool names, but the real names are based off things that cats see in real life. But cool names are cool. :) Really weird names, though, CAN, and WILL be excluded from the clan.
Uh.. That's all.
I think we need to stop fighting. We need to love eachother, no matter what. So stop the fighting and love love love! And roleplay too, but make sure everyone is happy :)
Poppyscar, a WFS Moderator
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People of WFS.
We have an awesome site.
With awesome people.
And awesome capability to easily become the best.
But many things are holding us behind.
We are good for organization, and instead of making more pages, we should focus on the current ones making them better and better.
But our biggest problem is us.
For one thing...
Cat Personalities and Names.
I know we have our standards and such, but sometimes we need to express ourselves. I mean
I know cats can't be emo, but being depressed is a fact of life, everyone goes through a type of depression once in their life. So cats should be able to be depressed. Cats have feelings, emotions, natural barriers, ect. I think, really, that we take it too far. We make the cats act more like HUMAN emos then depressed CATS. We need to be creative, people. Think like the cat, be the cat, put yourself in the cat's postion. There is no limitations, expect your imgation. We can, and should be able to have creative names, such as Goldentear. But we shouldn't take book names, or items that we know. Cats dont know of compasses, TV's, Cartoons, books... ect., we complain about the tightness, but we are just being unrealistic. There are no limitations expect for your imagation, but try to be reasonable. For crying out loud, i saw someone who was named Softtissue....>.<. Just be reasonable.
Also, we are pressing too much on mods and admins. They have lives, they are very busy keeping up the site we know. We should respect them and trust them. They do everything for a reason, and certainly it is a very good reason. These people are nice people, and we just have to believe that.
On top of which, i know some people like to start up random arguments just cuz you wanna have fun. But not everyone thinks like you, and might take it offensivly. Then they get out of hand and get rather... violent. We need PEACE people. We need understanding. Everyone is different, we are all people, and we all have emotions. Which leads me to our next topic.
Harassment
"Hey... thats not on the site!"
It is acutally.
When you make fun of someone...
Eye color
Hair color
Skin color
Gender
Weight
Personality
Ideas
Suggestions
Religion
Hate mail with insults
You can say your word, such as "No" or "That wouldn't be the best idea because..." but you dont say. "Are you kidding me?! Your stupid. Thats pathetic!" or "That wouldn't work! Your so stupid. You should have thought of this before!" or "Ha ha ha! Your fat! Ha! I bet you can't even fit in XXXXXLarge!" or "Ha ha! Your a girl! Boys are smarter then girls so you better listen to me instead." or "Ha! You have brown skin? I bet people mistake you for a potato." or "Ha ha! Your an alibino! Freak!" or "You have blue eyes and blond hair? Your the reason Hitler killed all those innocent people!" or even, "Your catholic? Muslim is soooo better."
Some of these are real examples.
Dont be mean.
It dosen't impress anyone.
It won't help you in life.
It won't make anyone like you better.
It wont increase your popularty.
It won't give you any benefit whatsoever.
It just wastes your time. So why do it?
This is harrasment.
"I'm gunna find you and beat you up!"
"Im gunna kill you in your sleep!"
"You'll wake up dead."
Hate mail with threats
These are terroristic threats. And even if your joking, and say, "JK, JK!" that doesn't make everything better. Some people take it seriously. Just dont do it.
Wake up and smell the coffee people.
Be nice. It doesn't pay off to be mean.
Also, I've noticed that some people just save doing nothing after someone did all the hard work to take credit for it. We can check history of the edits, and see who did the real work. Its just not polite. You want to look good by work? Do it, don't try and steal others.
Most important:
The RU's.
They are the glue that keeps this site stuck togethor.
Without them, there would be no one to make the site for.
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE WFS!
People are treating RU's as if their dirt, but they are probably the most important part of the site! We NEED RU's to acutally have a site. Sure Admins, Mods, and Writers can edit pages, but if it was just them, there would be nothing to do.
No pages to manage
Thus nothing to do
Drying the river.
Though, WE ARE ALL IMPORTANT.
Every single person is important to this site, and we should act as so.
We have to learn, sometimes to be serious and not be so DRAMATIC!
Drama makes people leave
It gets to much some times.
HEAR ME OUT!
We need to love. Not gay love or lesbian love, but a friendly love and compassion towards everyone. Learn to forgive and forget. Use common sense and you'll be fine. Take this into consideration, everyone. We are all equal in the end and should be treated as so. We need understanding. We dont need to make huge things out of small, we don't need to yell... we just need to listen and control. Understand.
oOSpecklezOo
A WFS Writer.
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Well I joined back in October when thunder, Howlz, and many others where still here. I felt like my heart shattered every time there was a leaving message and i can't take it. People leave because they feel left out. Disliked. Hated.The list goes on and on. And I felt like nobody really knew me. That i was being ignored and one of the only times i wasnt i was being yelled at and harassed. So i decided maybe if i could get to another position just so people could hear my voice. My ideas and that i could help. And i was so stressed this past month working for a month and than i got discouraged of ever being promoted and then i almost gave up and i havent been typing my fingers off. I have many supportive friends, but i have some people battering me around. I just wanna build wfs back together. When I read this i agree with everything there. I spend weeks sitting at a tabletypiing up possibilities of names and descriptions for my characters. and to find out that nobody ever actually reads the list i just want to go back to using Stuff like Redfur-a red furred she-cat with blue eyes. Is very nice. Rather than think up weeks' work of things like Fadedspirit. A misty grey she-cat with brilliant metallic green eyes that seem to be able to light anybody's heart. She would never walk away from an injured, starved or weak cat. She wants to help people because she didnt want them to suffer like she did. Compare those two and look at the differences. And I have noticed people have been really offensive to the newbies. Calling them names. Making them want to quit WFS. And most of all cussing them off. I will admit i have been mean to some but then i realized i was once yelled at and pushed around and sometimes i still am.I have considered leaving many times but then i dont cuz think of WFS as a priceless artifact on A tall structure. Everytime somebody leaves that structure gets weaker. Admins and Mods are the main bases that are keeping it up. Writers are supporting the main base and the RUs the most important part is the structure itself and every time somebody leaves it takes out a piece. It may not seem vital but soon WFS, the priceless artifact will fall and break. And WFS will meet its end. So I say that Keep Roleplaying Keep our site Strongand Dont EVER give up even if you seem you're not needed. I wanted to help be a Main base and keep WFS up but i've been discouraged. And the chats. We have the random chat and we have the RP chat. We RP on the RP chat.Once a Week or so. I am tired of trying to keep people happy and have them push me away cussing at me and telling me they dont want me there. Then i feel im wasting my time. I have put myself on gathering nice members and im trying to rebuild WFS's structure. I feel RP has dropped by alot. I used to not be able to reply to a thread fast enough and now im the only one who replies until the next half hour. I met Howlz on a site and she told me why she left and i agree with her reasons. If I were howlz i wouldve left too.I also feel people are taking advantage of others. Some Mods= im not saying all of them have been modeling people like clay MAKING them do stuff. and i say in RL is that if u hate somebody its just another part of your heart hating. so please join me Keep your heart open and if u ever see anyone being bullied dont be afraid and step in. And making someone feel bad is just to feel good. The truth is that person you bullied is better than you and you can cuss at me whatever. Treat me as your ragdoll. I dont think i will ever leave WFS. i will stay hold it up so if you think u can take advantage of anybody well you should know you're only doing that to make YOURSELF feel good. So to you bullies please stop. And if you're ever unhappy please know that i will always be there
Nightmist
A WFS Writer
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I remember when I first joined this site. I loved it so much that I even got some of my siblings to join. But now...I'm not so sure. I found lots of other sites created by the friends I met here that I now realize that this site is falling apart. There's fighting every other second. When we first joined this site there was 5 of my siblings including me sharing an account because we shared an e-mail. Now if you look at our account you'll see, only me and Amber are left. I joined this site because I loved reading warriors and I always had a great imagination and wanted to be a writer. Now I'm wondering what I was thinking that year and a half ago. I hate that everyone keeps cursing and fighting with each other. I know that even more now, for in recent events I had gotten into a fight with someone that is my best friend over a site my sister made. I just wish everything would go back to normal, like when our only troubles were the hackers that we fixed in an instant. But now we have the chats, how many times have I gone on the RP chat to see people just talking then when someone asks if they can all RP the others scream NO and call that person names and insults them? WAY to many times. I brought back my first RP character in the past couple weeks to show that I want this site to go back to the way it was. I think everyone should work together to get it back that way. Like I read in an above letter, I would like to look back on these days when I'm 30 or 50 and say," Those were the Golden Days. Those were the days that started my writing career." So many times has my crusor hovered over the cancel membership button, but the only thing that stops me is that I know that I have so many good friends on here like Windcaller, Okamiheart, and HowlingWolf, that I know that if I clicked that button I'd hurt them all. And above them I would hurt my best friend Wolftale. She left this site because she was accused of so much and everyone started hating her when she already has so much drama and hardships going on in her life. We led Midnight Pack together, but when she became less active due to things in her RL life, she killed off her Drappa. Just a few weeks ago she told me she is glad that she picked me for Dragga, because Midnight Pack is the only page she can recall that hasn't changed for the worse. I've gotten a few hatemails saying that she's evil and I shouldn't be friends with her, but you know what? She IS my BEST friend, she IS a person I would LOVE to meet in RL, and she ISN'T a person who would purposly be cruel and insulting to someone, without a dang good reason. More then once we've both stepped in on someone being bullied, and people have stepped in on ME bullying someone. I thank them for that, because they keep me in check and remind me that even though I'm having a really bad day and this is my only escape, I can turn this into my personal hell too, and I shouldn't bully anyone for saying the wrong thing to me. Sure I can tell them that wasn't nice and that I'm having a bad day, but I should never bully them. Neither should anyone else. I think we should have a page that we can all go on and just vent out all our problems on, and maybe have others help us through the hard time. Think about it, thats like killing two birds with one stone. We're venting out are anger so we're less likley to take it out on others AND our activness in threads would skyrocket! (because we all know we would use that page) And if anyone needs help with a problem, I don't mind having the extra message in my inbox everyday, I'm on almost everyday and I care about what happens to our memebers.
Jaykit A WFS Writer
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Okay so I just joined this site, and all this is really kinda scary. I knew a member, Sunstep, she was an RU until she left. I met her on the chats and she didn't fight. But then she told me she was leaving when I asked her what clan she was in. I asked why, and ya know what she said. She said "Because things here aren't the same." I took that into consideration. Things were once better I thought, so it isn't just me who is tired about the fighting.
And now all of us are tired.
Seal Heart, A WFS RU
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So, I think WFS is kind of taking a large plummet south. So many good things are going bad fast. The mods+ are ignoring the writers and RUs, and they don't know it. I know pretty much all the moderators and admins, and I know that they wouldn't purposely ignore someone. They're all very nice and friendly. I know that as a fact. But I think all of us mods+ are too used to making the desicions. That is one of the reasons that this site is going down hill. So, I really think we need to start using that suggestion page we made. Through that, we need to let everyone else decide for once. We are the site matinence, not the site desicion makers. Yes, we do have the banning and promoting abilities, so we do need to make a few decisions on our own. Sure, we've been here for a while, and we know the site like the back of our hand. But I bet there are more than just a few RUs and writers who know WFS just as well, and maybe even better than we do. So that's why we also have to trust eachother to make good decisions. Not saying that everyone's gonna make good decisions all the time--we're not perfect. But trusting the lifeblood of this site--the RUs--to make some decisions will help us TONS. That would mean less arguments, for one thing. Another thing is, don't you think that the RUs would want the best for the site they come to have fun on? So don't you think that they would have some sense of what sounds most fun to them? I think so! I mean, they may even have more sense than we do--they don't have as many other things on their minds as we do. So that's one thing I have to say.
Another thing is, our strictness and our deleting pages. Not good. Guys, guys, guys. We need to hold up on the deleting the pages! It's just not healthy for the site! I mean, if no one uses the page anymore, it's useless, a dead weight, then of course, delete it. But if people still like it, then we should at least have a vote on it. That's part of the trust that we need to build. Let the RUs decide that, too! They're ultimately the ones who use that page. So please, just because a page isn't "Active" enough for a handful of mods+ doesn't mean that people aren't enjoying it, and it doesn't mean that it isn't good for the site. So we should definitely consult the lifeblood of this site when deleting pages.
Now, here's my little message to the RUs. You guys are awesome. But you must understand, that we are trying our best, and that we do have lives outside of the computer. I just want you all to understand that we are trying our best, and that we really do care for you. It may not seem like it at times. It may seem like we think you are mere dust, or something. But that is opposite from the truth. You are teh lifeblood of this site! Without you it would not exist. I just hope you all know that we are trying. We discuss so many things in messages, we argue for what's best for the site, we spend a huge margin of our time here, we are dedicated to this site. And we really want what's best for you and the site! And nao, we are going to listen to you and see what you think, what you want. But let's face it, we're not perfect, and we're only teenagers--we haven't even reached adult hood, and yet we are making adult decisions! So that means that we're not going to be the best all the time. I just hope you all understand that, every single one of you, even those mods+ out there. Writers too.
Now, here is my bit of encouragement. We've all been through hard times, on this site and in our lives. Life isn't life if it doesn't have hard times in it. But guess what--we got through those hard times, didn't we? And really, this time period isn't the hardest in the site, in my opinion. You just ask someone who's been here a while--I'm quite sure there have been other downs on this site. But we will get through this! All we have to do is straighten our backs, think positively, work hard, and do our best. Before we know it, this site will be number one activity level, the most fun to go on, pretty much everyone's nice--the golden days will have been recreated. Restored. Revived! Nao, let's stop saying bad things and get to the postitive! THat's what gives us hope! so everyone, focus on the now, and be sure to work hard, do your best, and always be the light for everyone else, including yourself. Amazing things will occur--I promise you that. Now, go out and enjoy this wonderful site. Thanks for reading,
Silverwake, a WFS administrator
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I remember when I first joined and everything was so much better and brighter. The mods+ were mostly thankful and nice to all the RUs and writers and I was friends with a lot of them, and most of them weren't the new mods+ that are present in WFS today, recently promoted to whatever rank. I worked really hard to earn my spot as a writer, I was nice to people and I was very active, but I noticed the world around in WFS seem to go faster, people began to get promoted really quickly, and now I think it's WAY worse. I see people getting promoted to writers so quickly, not to mention mods. I'll look at a mod or writer's profile as what they currently were and then I check a week or two later and they're mods and admins! And then when they're mods they do anything, as some of you've mentioned before me! And I'm sitting here wondering what happened to the people who really earn their positions and are ignored for it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining in ANY way of my own rank, in fact, I'm proud to be just a writer since I hear how stressful it is to be higher ranked, and I'm best friends with people like Foeseeker who greatly earn their high ranks and Hawkpelt, but for those of you who are just promoted as quick as the blink of an eye, it's ridiculous. And I agree how most of the mods+ look down on us, and I think that's unfair when we were our butts off to save this place. Yes, I was absent for a while, but that was because I thought WFS was over, it was obviously falling apart, piece by piece, and yes, I may not be the master writer of all time, but that's just because I'm cautious of what page I edit since I'm careful with what I'm suppose to do and what I'm not.
It's stupid how mods+ will snap back on how RUs and writers express their opinions on how this site IS falling apart, and yes, I will admitt some are hurtful and unnecsissary, but I'm afraid to reply on some in case I say something wrong and get banned! Quit being so hotheaded and listen for once, because every user on this site has a right to express their opinions and suggestions, and I'm tired of mods+ snapping back with excuses like "You get stressed when you get 800 messages a day", really, and I hate messages too, but let's remember that this is a roleplaying fansite not a real life job! You shouldn't get so stressed about having two messages in your inbox every day that you have to treat people like idiots for it! I feel like I've been treating like an idiot by higher-ranked people for making mistakes, and I do get embarrassed because of it, sometimes people don't like to be treated like they don't know anything.
Also, with the laziness of editting the page, I don't get it. This is why people shouldn't be promoted so much because they can't finish activity checks and let adding a cat slip their mind until it never happens! Responsibility is something that should be tested in all RUs and writers and mods to see if they can handle the job to keeping things in order on WFS, something that hasn't been enforced lately.
I know isn't a side most of you have seen from me. I'm not the type to try to put people down at all, I just want to help WFS stay alive like the rest of you. I'm lucky in a way I don't get hate mail or most of the disrespect others are given, and those who are treated unfairly are the ones who I'm trying to help. Remember that the letter I wrote does not apply for all of you, just some, and I appreciate the people fighting for WFS and Foeseeker, Hawkpelt, Tawnywing, and Sandfang, some of the users I respect the most.
Hang in there and please help
Arrowheart28
A WFS Writer
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I was horrified not all that long ago when I discovered a huge fight going on with a number of mods+, writers, and even an RU or two involved. One of my best friends here, Lunar_Angel_Demon, was in the center of it. And she was being attacked by a large number of people in the argument. She almost left as a result of it, and I realized just how rotten this place has become. Because of that fight I held grudges for some time against several people, avoiding them purposefully on threads and once getting heated on a message sent to all moderators. It was horrible.
We're becoming too classed. RUs are isolated away in one group, writers are sorta in between, and the mods+ are perched on the top of their ladder staring down their noses at the rest of the site. As a moderator myself - and also a not-too-far-in-the-past RU - I remember how angry I got when it took forever to get a cat added or I had to message someone ten times to get them to respond to me. It's a case of anti-cooperation. We're not working together, and this site is gradually falling apart because of it.
RUs: you're the lifeblood of this site. Without you, where would we be? Probably stuck editing pages the livelong day. We mods+ forget just how much you do for this site, from RPing cats to giving awesome ideas for plots and new sections to us. I just wish all the mods+ knew how much we need you. Please just be patient with we mods+; we have so much to do, and we try to do our best. Just give us some slack and we'll try even harder.
Writers: you're like the stage crew for this site, working in the wings and between scenes without really being seen much. You give us so much help, yet we don't realize how much. Forget becoming a mod+; you help us so much already it's as if you already are one. Please just give the mods+ a good hard kick next time we stall and stick in the works. Thank you.
Mods+: I'm going to mix punishment with praise here. We're too arrogant for our own good. We fight with each other, ignore and even attack RUs and writers, and act too stuck-up for our own good. I know I sound mean, but I'm just putting the facts down. I know that you're what make this place run, but do please try harder to be NICE about it! And listen to the RUs; they're not stupid like we act like they are. That RU you just got mad at could be a future admin. Think about it.
The point of my letter is, guys, we need to work together. A Clan doesn't survive it its members are too busy fighting themselves; it's the same with this site. So next time you see someone of a different rank on a thread, see if they want to have their kit go on an adventure with your kit. Try to get to know them better; you'll be surprised how much more open to the site you'll become.
Foeseeker, WFS moderator
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When I first joined it was about a year ago , and everything was different.It was called the golden ages for a reason....everyone was happy and people barely fought and if they did fight they were tiny, insignificant . This place felt happier and bubbly.I went on so much because I wanted to be part of that , we were like a family .Now I'm active because I want to fix things.WFS is crashing down , it's being torn into pieces for TONS of different reasons.Some mods+ do seem to look down on others so in some for the RUs and writers mind every mod+ seems that way.Well they're not.
The moderaters aren't terrible evil selfish people and RUs aren't unimportant peices of nothing.We are equal.We have to learn that or this site is going to fall apart andI don't think it can be fixed if it does that.
All I'm asking is .....
Just realize that we are all equal and that we all have feelings and good ideas.
It's not hard.
Together.Forever
Just like Leon said
Danmeg , just an RPer who wants things to be right again
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Hi I am a Registered User, and I just wanted to let all you other RU's know that QUITTING JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET PROMOTED SUCKS!!! There, I got that out of my system. There are plenty of ways you can contribute without being a Writer+, and just you wait, the day might come that you are unexpectedly promoted! And if you aren't you can still have all the fun in the world RPing!
Don't despair!
Stellardancer
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I agree with a lot of the things said here. When I first joined WFS a year ago this site was crazy roflmfao fun! On the chats people would be talking and rping with barely any arguments. People were really active on threads too. But then people started leaving and things slowly started going downhill. Remember when the chats were taken down? That wasn't fun. Awhile after they put the chats back up, the vibe kinda changed. Am I the only one who noticed that? Anyways, now its so quiet here. I feel like everyone around here is waiting for someone else to do something bout WFS, but no one is really doing anything. Tiz sad. D:
Silverblossom
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After reading all this it reminded me of a site i quit. Wcc2New and CLassic. Some people are People lose there grip and get mad. Trust me i know how that feels. But guys here At WFS it is alot better then those site combine and heres why. You guys are way more responsible about things and thre is no fighting that i have seen since i have been here. On Wcc2 there were fights all the time. and on classic if it was over positions or it was over something like A tornado killing a cat. Saphirepool is right our cats grow into old cats they can never live for ever. WFs is the site i love to rp in. i might know so little of you but i am willing to get to know you. But Let me tell you guys this Wcc2 Will most likely fall because people are getting tired of the drama. You guys keep up the amazing work that keeps ppl here no matter IF you dont get a position. Positions arent important. It is the Rus that Rp. if all us Rus were to disapper this site would have nothing. Same thing goes for Mods and the Admins you guys have a job to do and you must uphold that job. If can not let some one know and asay i am not cut out for it can i be demoted. Trust me being a mod is not always what is protrayed to be. But Rus If your ignored Make your self be heard in appriote manner.We all have a choice wether it be good or bad. The chose is yours and you got to make it some time. Just rember that =).
This site is the best Rping site that i have been on along with another one.
Dante6500
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It was more active and fun when i joined 4 MONTHS a lot lot of people on here where active,now as im writing this the three pages i go on to rp,there hasn't more than maybe 2 replies since i replied what 5 hours ago,im sad now.Im tired of being on when there is no replies,and this is the 4th time ive been on today,and i replied to those on my first time today,so i hope that WFS WILL WAKE UP!
~A really sad and almost crying while writing this~
Fernystarzoftehiceyclanz
A WFS RU
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i dont know HOW i should feel about this page. I think its very sweet that youre doing this but srsly. When ever someone found out that i had cancer and couldve DIED theyd be like 'PPFT! yea watev!' and start hating! even those who believed me wouldnt care. What makes these people any more important? Only TWO people said get well to me and they QUIT because of the **** that happens on this site! Im so sick of it and yet i dont quit because i have a feeling that the old wfs WILL come back. The past repeats itself and im certain it will this time on the account of what the staff are doing now. but srsly. if yu didnt have this oage id have no idea whats happening! On the chat box mods+ still harrass. Its only on these kind of pages that theyre actually nice to people. I cant help feeling that u guys think that ru's r just peices of **** and yu can USE us! im so sick of it! If you want the old wfs to come back you dont need to stand around, make pages, and slooowly do it. JUST DO IT. IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO BE NICE TO PEOPLE!?
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i dont want to stoop to the level of some ppl here so GET WELL! :D
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y cant some ppl here be like this? Despite your anger you can still show kindness to one another. It breaks my heart to see this site crashing and try to hide the fact by putting up 'nice' pages
A very confused and outraged member
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WFS does not deserve number 4 in the Wetpaint 500. What has this site come to? Fights, angry people leaving, and useless messages that we really don't care about? I joined this site because of its reputation. It was fun, active, and had many varieties of what to do. I was on everyday, striving to be a writer. This was my first wetpaint site that I joined. I rarely go on anymore and currently have over 350 messages that are useless and I refuse to check. WAKE UP WFS!
Braveheart
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Without RU's, what would this wetpaint site be? Nothing! Wake up WFS and stop ignoring the RU's and treat them like they are living beings! We NEED RU's to keep the site up and running! Don't treat them like dirt and kick them around. Its like everyone is giving up on WFS and leaving. Even the RU's. We need them. Even the writers. Do me a favor, Mods+: STOP IGNORING THE RU'S AND WRITERS!
Mysticalstar1912
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Look you guys, without the Rus you would have nothing. Basically, there would be no cats, no threads, and no fun. I'm not saying that Mods+ cant do this alone, but come on! Do we really want this site to crash and burn?? Now i'm not saying that Rus are best... i know that the mods+ are important too. I'm just saying that the Mods+ should be nicer to the Rus and not ignore us. There are some nice Mods+ out there, they just need to participate. To make a long story short, the Mods+ are just being jerks by thinking that RUs are not important. Well, i don't mean any offense or anything but I just thought that us RUs need to speak up and the Mods+ need to wake up.
Wargirls, RU
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I know I'm only like a month old;
And I've heard a lot of you speak of the Golden Days. When the site was a better place because there were less members, and less fighting. That you could act stupid and nobody would care, and everyone felt welcome here. Why can't we act stupid? Act as silly as you want! If you do it more often, you won't feel weird about it. Also, to make it seem like there are less members, delete the ones who haven't been on for over two months or so.
RUs like myself, you aren't treated that bad. It's not like the mods+ ignore you, they just have had more time with the other members so they know them better. That, and the fact that they're 500 times busier! And newbs, again, like myself, you probably feel much more ignored. You don't know what the heck anyone else is talking about. But... try not to post 5 threads on the homepage when you first get on, like I did ;P
If WFS does get better, maybe it won't be like the Golden Days, but it might be like... the Bronze Days. Not as good and shiny, but better than nothing. Don't complain about what can't happen-- if you want the member numbers to accumulate, you have to deal with this. The site isn't going downhill, there's just more members, and the members that have been here for a while are close-knit and protective of this site. That must be the leading cause to the fighting.
Wake up WFS.
Wildfeather
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As the previous letter said, members talk alot about the Golden Days. Alright, you miss the days when people were nice to each other, people didn't leave as often, WFS was a place for fun. All, I can say is you bought this on yourself. If all you do is complain, of course people aren't going to be nice to you, then people get upset and leave, causing it not be so fun. Personally, I believe in Karma. So if all you do is complain and say how bad the site is now, the site will become bad, and people will leave and not like you. But if you talk about the good points, peole will be happier, therefor the site will become better. When was the last time a mod+ sent out a message saying something like, 'Despite what people say, this site is great. I mean, how often do you get to talk to people in a different city, state and even country without trouble and for free? I've made great friends here, and I am so grateful I joined.', I cannot actually remember an message like that.
No onto the sticky mess of the relationship between RU's and mods+. Eventhough people complain about this all the time (it has been improving, I will admit), Mods+ still don't listen to RU's, or should I say, don't want to listen to RU's. Today, Wednesday 2nd September 2009, I saw on a thread about stoping apprentices having kits, this written 'u should have a vote against it or with it, but all the RU's will vote against it so it should be a MOD+ vote'. I realise now that that was written by a writer, but that writer is a popular choice to be a mod. I don't know how else I can put this, this person wanted a major part of the site desided by mods+ instead of the people who are going to be efftected by it decide. That doesn't seem right to me. Mods+ are making so many decisions about the site without even notifing RU's. Such as the 'Other Cats' section, what ikf we didn't want the city part? But you added it anyway, so it could become completely unactive, then you'll moan at us, becaus we're not active on a part which you don't even know if we want or not.
Y'know what the worst part is? Mods+ probably won't read this, or half of the letters, and even if they do, they probably won't take action on them.
So what do we do? My view is, vote. Vote for a new set of Mods+. And to make it fair, everybody who is a writer+ goes into the vote. The top amount of people, are premoted, then all writers can stay as writers and then have another poll to decide what to do with Mods+. I know what people are going to say 'But I like this mod, I want them to stay', they can, if enough people vote, for them, but if most people thnk others could do better then they get voted in. Like an election, but we do it, let's say, once a year. Some people will desigree with it, but all I can say to them, your going to want a mod+ to be demoted, and this way they could.
Moonmark, Writer(then), Moderator (now) who didn't mean to write a letter so long.
Part 2
Recently I have been promoted to a Mod. I still support what I said in the least letter. The only way i can explain itis by comparing it to my school mentor groups~ It's a vertical learning thing, where a form is divided up into threes and we meet in groups everyday, in it there are yr 7's to yr 13's. In mine, yr 10's to yr 13's kinda band together, and tend to contribute, but everybodyelse sits around. What I've found is Mods+ with a few writers and RU's are the yr10's to yr 13's, they add more to the site, but we ignore the Ru's and some writers.
But, we have a hard time. Mods+ get less credit than they deserve. We do try, I can see that, we're trying to bring the site together, and yes we are listening, but we should get more involved.
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What to say first. Oh gosh, I seriously don't know. Okay you know what, lets start with something simple. Where's all the love gone, you guys? I remember the "golden days" [that now don't seem so golden], when everyone got along, and when discrimination amongst ourselves was unknown. When all of the mods treated the RUs as they treated the rest of themselves, and the RUs respected the mods. But now, that's unknown. Gone; perhaps for forever. Now.. Now I just don't know. People send hate messages just for the fun of it, and hardly any of the mods are friends amongst themselves--let alone the registered users. And becomming a mod isn't based on experiance or trust anymore--only friendship. I only know this because if I wasn't friends with most of the mods+ I probably wouldn't even be mod, or a leader. These days, it's all about connections and friendship. Who finds that fair? Not me. You see, if I wasn't on the hated list amongst the greater part of mods+ I would complain to their faces, but I'm chicken. There. I'm chicken. Once someone gets into the position of power, they don't want it gone. That's another thing that sucks.
Onto subject two; people leaving and fighting. Everything on this site has gone so down-hill lately that everyone's leaving. Ambersky, Leopardtumble, Reedriver+Salmonclaw, and many others. At one point a few weeks ago, I was thinking of leaving myself. But I changed my mind, unlike half of the people. I've been trying to be onthe fence about all of the fights going around lately, but it's just too much. The fighting gets to a person, you know? And now everyone's tempermental and pissy, and I can't trust over half of the people on here anymore since they're been treating each other this way-- or vice versa. I'm so sorry about everything that's been going around, and it's just so hard to not get into fights anymore. Stop bringing real life ordeals into this, and we won't have these problems!
Subject three; we need to start roleplaying more. This IS a roleplay site, isn't it? It used to be all RP, hardly any drama. Now its DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA ROLEPLAY DRAMA DRAMA Fish. Not cool.
Okay, I know that most of you won't read this, and those of you who do won't give a rat's a*s, but we've got to straighten up. WAKE THE HECK UP, WFS.
wfs moderator, toast[;
For those of you who don't know, I was [so-called] WFS's top admin for a while. I worked hard for that position. I left and had it taken away. Currently, I have been trying to earn it back but let me tell you it seems impossible. Moderators - You tend to ignore the Writers and RU's. You look down on us, like we aren't important, or not good enough, not active enough, just not enough. This is mean. And unfair. We work hard with what we do.
I have sent the Mods+ messages about completing the banner contest as well as the activity check. Do you realize that a writer is doing that? Because you failed to do your job? I don't mind doing it - but that's a Mod+'s job. Not a writer who apparently doesn't even deserve to be Moderator, or Administrator.
RU's are ignored. Writers are ignored. Heck - I was ignored as a Moderator AND as an Admin. What is so darn[I wanted to use a different word if you catch my drift] important that you can't care about the people who make this site what it is!? If the RU's left you would have nothing. And maybe that's what should happen if you can't clean up your act.
This thread is not a plea for promotion - yet a plea for you to work harder. I realize you all have lives. Crazy lives, but if you can't handle picking up the slack - ask to be demoted this very second or work your butt off until this site is better.
Thank you for reading, but don't just read this message, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Echodapple,
Former Administrator
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I'm no mod hater,but I will say this thing,someone wrote a famous sentence: " Happy families are all alike,every unappy family is unhappy in it's own way." I know literature is boring,but for once,it has a point.
RUs and writers against Mods and admins.
Mods,you do have a point,an overwhelming family of 3000 members all editing this site is just too much,without order,everything will mess up.
However,you can stop us RUs and writers from editing everything,but whenever we get a shouting message and a DO NOT REPLY in the face,it makes us feel mad,like we can't do anything and are the sooner rid of,the better.The mods are sick of us.
But if we look from the mods' point.They got something too,let the writer family grow and you get a super unorganized,out of control site.Try to keep down the 3000 of us is depressing, mods are leaving all the time because it's almost impossible trying to be the leader of over 3000,each one with a different opinion.
So,like a modern,21st centry batle,Atom Smasher vs. Nuculei Bomb.Nobody wins the war,both gets hurt.
So MAYBE,we should BOTH calm down,stop the developing problem:WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT GOALS AND OPINIONS,every member of our WFS family is unhappy in our own way.
So DEFINATELY we should do something about,some one thing that can make all of us,from RU to top admin,happy together.
Thank you if you didn't abandon this and read to this sentence,but don't just read it,DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
WFS writer,
Stillriver
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Please read it. I used kind words and such so its not mean :D
The RUs have been ignored and left out a lot and its not fair to them. Thats why the leave because they feel less important and That there is no use of them. The only way to make this site work if we bring everyone back together and working together. You cant just make someone a mod because they are your friend, or you cant just make someone an admin because they helped you at some point. Dude if you aren't made a mod or admin live with it, Thats life sometimes you lose but dont give up! keep working ahead! Just try harder next time! The WHOLE reason the site came down is because people who should have never become mods or admins did, and when they lose that position they get angry. I'm not pointing fingers of anything But I want the old site back when everyone was friends, there was no drama and everyone didn't get worked up all the time. We need People who Will make the right choice To pick good Admins and mods who will do what they have to do.just because you are an admin or mod doesn't mean you are amazing, It mean s you have to do work and help around the site
A member who misses The old site
and wants it back..
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Okay, I almost left the site cause I was getting discouraged that I wasn't getting promoted, even though there were writers that had less contributions than me. I now know that was wrong.
Not getting promoted doesn't mean the site doesn't need or care about you. It just means that there are people on this site that work a little harder and are more active. This is the only solution:
1.Be more active
If you want to get promoted, then DONT ASK. That is the #1 fatal mistake that most of us do. The only way to get promoted is to WORK HARD!!!!
Now on to another subject.
I agree that some moderators and administrators are "attacking" the writers and RU's. This happened on a site with my friend. She made me an adim. but said I had to get her permission to edit stuff; stuff that she said needed to be edited. I can understand how editing the Clan and Pack pages are monitored, but I mean, why can't writers edit pages like the Home Page, Adoption Center, ect. For example, the Adoption center. I don't think it's fair to judge if a writer+ should be able to edit by making them add 7+ cats. It should be judged by their activeness.
Mods and admins, you better shape up.
Put yourself into our shoes for once.
Remember Thunder. She left cause she thought nobody cared for her. I can understand now why she left....
This site is dying and nobody really cares.
Think about it.
You may say, "WTF is she talking about?!?!? I CARE!!!"
But do you?
If we cared, we would CHANGE people! C'mon!!!
That is all (for now)
:( we need the old WFS back with Thunder, Sparrow, and EVERYBODY else.
(shadey, Pants, ect.)
A member who is losing her grip.
*Featherstream*
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I agree that this site is falling apart but do you think if sparrowheart came back and looked at what we are doing to each other, that she would be fine with it? No. She wouldn't. Sparrowheart left this site in our hands and expected us to take care of it, not turn it into a drama-filled disaster. I don't have anything against mods or admin's but if you guys could just stop for a second at least and put yourselves in a writer/RU's shoes then maybe youll see where we're coming from. Instead of everyone complaining and moping, lets do something about this and look at this period of time as a life lesson.
~Littleriver~
Writtin as
~WFS REGISTERED USER~
Currently:Wfs Admin.
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Ive only been a member on this site for 7 months, but I started doing RPing and stuff 4 or 5 months ago. I havnt been on WFS for a long time, but long enough to know whats happening here. This site is growing closer and closer to being nothing beacause of many reasons. People who do send hate mail and be mean to other members are just being bullies and mean. And they should be banned, but if you get sent hate mail dont send anything back to them thats rude because that makes you the same as them, a bully. Just like most of the people above me, I agree that some RU's are ignored, yet some are not. RU's feel as if they are nothing! Thier feel ignored..all they want is to be appricated, just like me.We should be treated equally, even though some are Moderators+ we shouldnt be treated badly and be ignored just cause we are a lower position! We should all be friends, and we shouldnt pick favorites. We need to do something about this mess, if we want to make it through.
And this is coming from me, and a Writer. I was just recently promoted but before that I saw that I was more active than some of the writers here. Ive seen many writers+ that arent even active. I did feel ignored at times, and yes I did like Im nothing..but inside I know becoming someone on WFS is worth the hard work, and now I found out it was worth it. I was nominated to be promoted to be a writer, and I hoped the Mods+ will promote me, and they did but I just wanna say to you guys who might quit cause your not being promoted, -Just stay with it, if you do you will have a big chance of being a writer+ You have to believe in yourself and be confident about it! I wasnt at first but now I know..so NEVER give up- =]
Remember RU's your a HUGE part of WFS...and dont forget it :)
kelsiedude WFS Writer
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I haven't been on WFS the longest of times, but I know what it feels to have a big site. Not 3,000 members, but still, BIG. I'm Morningstar1 on Warrior Cat Wish, a site that has 320 members right now. I remember the good old days of my own site. Normal number of members, decent flowing roleplay thoughout the clans, little troubles. Until the site hit 100 members, it started getting a bit difficult. We had some members that just totally... hurt both me and the site. I would go on WCW everyday, constantly wanting to get on because it was important to me and I knew that it was ME that had to deal with it. ME that had to take care of the members. ME that had to add new members and take care of all the page editing.
As we reached 150 members I started getting more tired. New members were rapidly joining and I didn't have a whole bunch of time to add them and answer their questions. So I created another warriors site, Warrior Cat Role-play. I thought of it just as another little site to have. But really, it was a getaway. I needed a break from the drama of WCW. I hardly ever showed up on WCW after I started working on my new site. Then one day, when I realized it was WCW's 1st year anniversery, I went on. I couldn't tell you how many messages had piled up in my inbox. Members asking to join, members asking where are I was, members messaging me that were kits when I used to be on that were now old warriors.
I sent messages apologizing and saying I'd try to be on with all my effort. But I never came on. I was... almost scared. Cause I knew I couldn't deal with it. I was happy with my other site, and I wished to leave it like that. I nice, friendly, dainty, perfect sized site that had no issues. But then I thought of the night I first created WCW. How ecstatic I was and how I jumped up and danced when I saw that I had a first member two weeks later. It made me terribly sad tha I'd come all that way and now all of it just... dropped I guess. So when the site now had about 200 members, I came back on again. I looked at all the sloppy pages and I couldn't take it. I started to try going on at a more daily basis, cleaning and polishing pages, restarting the clans so WCW would be fresh again and at least a little better. At least it made me feel better... But before I knew it, I was back to not going on, then going on, not going on, then going on AGAIN.
I know what you're thinking. "Why is she just talking all about HER site and not the issues on WFS?"
I'm saying this because I do know what it feels like. I know what it feels like to run a HUGE site and it IS overwhelming. It drives me up and down walls and it is a lot of work. Especially cause I now have two sites that I'm trying to take care of. But here's the thing: I'm speaking not to the writers, not to the mods, not to the admins; but to the Registered Users. I'm telling you that if you are complaining, that it IS HARD. I know some of you are being mistreated, and hey, of course I don't like that. But it IS FRUSTRATING. And the mods and admins know that taking care of a whole site, I'm sure. But I just wanted to tell YOU, WFS, my story. I'm one RU of WFS.
I'm not just saying that all writers, mods, and admins just see every RU on here lower than them and absolutely nothing to the site. Cause guess what? RUs ARE the site. In every way, shape and form, WFS would be nothing without them.
But here's my next point: (I know this letter's LONG...)
Promotions most of the time push RUs aside and all though it makes you feel proud of yourself, RUs may never feel like they're good enough to become that person everyone on the site knows. When I join a big site like this, I always wonder if I'll ever be good enough to become that person everyone knows. A writer, a mod, even an admin.
I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense much, WFS, but I felt I needed to say SOMETHING. I like to share what I feel and what I think and what I know.
Moonglowza, Registered User of WFS
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As a moderator of WFS, I know what it's like to have to go through a lot of messages, to deal with a lot of stress, and to be in a lot of fights. To live the dream you have to work hard, and right now, I'm not sure if I'm living part of my dream. I love WFS, and it tears me to pieces to see everyone fighting. I just wish that we could all get together, that we could discuss our problems calmly and reasonably, and to listen to everyone's ideas, but apparently, we are incapable of doing that. WFS is my life, it truly is. I put 110% into everything, even fictional sites with fictional cats that have fictional kits and mates and then die, fighting for their fictional clan. Yeah, it sounds ridiculous, but I'm young, it doesn't matter, I can use my imagination. :)
The thing I'm trying to say, though, is even though you have a lot of contributions, and you're active, doesn't mean you're EVER going to be promoted into a writer. You might stay an RU the whole time you're on WFS, cuz face it. Not all of the moderators are going to leave! do you think we're juwst going to poof, and move over so you guys can be moderators and writers? No, and most of us won't become an admin afterwards. You might not get promoted, and be happy. Most high ranked sites are private, like Cinderpaw and Lunastar's Quest. But we aren't, so it's an honor just being an RU, and getting to meet the wonderful people you do on here.
r o l e p l a y
Do you realize this roleplay is very fictoinal? Here are some key things I don't see people roleplaying on here.
Imperfect cats.
Cats that guard the clan.
Apprentices that stay up all night for their denmates to come back from a gathering to tell them all about it.
Border fights.
Prey being hunted on another clan's territory.
Patrols. Even though we have them, nobody actually RPs them!
i n c o r r e c t r o l e p l a y
No Emo cats. Cats aren't emo.
Of course we need cool names, but the real names are based off things that cats see in real life. But cool names are cool. :) Really weird names, though, CAN, and WILL be excluded from the clan.
Uh.. That's all.
I think we need to stop fighting. We need to love eachother, no matter what. So stop the fighting and love love love! And roleplay too, but make sure everyone is happy :)
Poppyscar, a WFS Moderator
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People of WFS.
We have an awesome site.
With awesome people.
And awesome capability to easily become the best.
But many things are holding us behind.
We are good for organization, and instead of making more pages, we should focus on the current ones making them better and better.
But our biggest problem is us.
For one thing...
Cat Personalities and Names.
I know we have our standards and such, but sometimes we need to express ourselves. I mean
I know cats can't be emo, but being depressed is a fact of life, everyone goes through a type of depression once in their life. So cats should be able to be depressed. Cats have feelings, emotions, natural barriers, ect. I think, really, that we take it too far. We make the cats act more like HUMAN emos then depressed CATS. We need to be creative, people. Think like the cat, be the cat, put yourself in the cat's postion. There is no limitations, expect your imgation. We can, and should be able to have creative names, such as Goldentear. But we shouldn't take book names, or items that we know. Cats dont know of compasses, TV's, Cartoons, books... ect., we complain about the tightness, but we are just being unrealistic. There are no limitations expect for your imagation, but try to be reasonable. For crying out loud, i saw someone who was named Softtissue....>.<. Just be reasonable.
Also, we are pressing too much on mods and admins. They have lives, they are very busy keeping up the site we know. We should respect them and trust them. They do everything for a reason, and certainly it is a very good reason. These people are nice people, and we just have to believe that.
On top of which, i know some people like to start up random arguments just cuz you wanna have fun. But not everyone thinks like you, and might take it offensivly. Then they get out of hand and get rather... violent. We need PEACE people. We need understanding. Everyone is different, we are all people, and we all have emotions. Which leads me to our next topic.
Harassment
"Hey... thats not on the site!"
It is acutally.
When you make fun of someone...
Eye color
Hair color
Skin color
Gender
Weight
Personality
Ideas
Suggestions
Religion
Hate mail with insults
You can say your word, such as "No" or "That wouldn't be the best idea because..." but you dont say. "Are you kidding me?! Your stupid. Thats pathetic!" or "That wouldn't work! Your so stupid. You should have thought of this before!" or "Ha ha ha! Your fat! Ha! I bet you can't even fit in XXXXXLarge!" or "Ha ha! Your a girl! Boys are smarter then girls so you better listen to me instead." or "Ha! You have brown skin? I bet people mistake you for a potato." or "Ha ha! Your an alibino! Freak!" or "You have blue eyes and blond hair? Your the reason Hitler killed all those innocent people!" or even, "Your catholic? Muslim is soooo better."
Some of these are real examples.
Dont be mean.
It dosen't impress anyone.
It won't help you in life.
It won't make anyone like you better.
It wont increase your popularty.
It won't give you any benefit whatsoever.
It just wastes your time. So why do it?
This is harrasment.
"I'm gunna find you and beat you up!"
"Im gunna kill you in your sleep!"
"You'll wake up dead."
Hate mail with threats
These are terroristic threats. And even if your joking, and say, "JK, JK!" that doesn't make everything better. Some people take it seriously. Just dont do it.
Wake up and smell the coffee people.
Be nice. It doesn't pay off to be mean.
Also, I've noticed that some people just save doing nothing after someone did all the hard work to take credit for it. We can check history of the edits, and see who did the real work. Its just not polite. You want to look good by work? Do it, don't try and steal others.
Most important:
The RU's.
They are the glue that keeps this site stuck togethor.
Without them, there would be no one to make the site for.
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE WFS!
People are treating RU's as if their dirt, but they are probably the most important part of the site! We NEED RU's to acutally have a site. Sure Admins, Mods, and Writers can edit pages, but if it was just them, there would be nothing to do.
No pages to manage
Thus nothing to do
Drying the river.
Though, WE ARE ALL IMPORTANT.
Every single person is important to this site, and we should act as so.
We have to learn, sometimes to be serious and not be so DRAMATIC!
Drama makes people leave
It gets to much some times.
HEAR ME OUT!
We need to love. Not gay love or lesbian love, but a friendly love and compassion towards everyone. Learn to forgive and forget. Use common sense and you'll be fine. Take this into consideration, everyone. We are all equal in the end and should be treated as so. We need understanding. We dont need to make huge things out of small, we don't need to yell... we just need to listen and control. Understand.
oOSpecklezOo
A WFS Writer.
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Well I joined back in October when thunder, Howlz, and many others where still here. I felt like my heart shattered every time there was a leaving message and i can't take it. People leave because they feel left out. Disliked. Hated.The list goes on and on. And I felt like nobody really knew me. That i was being ignored and one of the only times i wasnt i was being yelled at and harassed. So i decided maybe if i could get to another position just so people could hear my voice. My ideas and that i could help. And i was so stressed this past month working for a month and than i got discouraged of ever being promoted and then i almost gave up and i havent been typing my fingers off. I have many supportive friends, but i have some people battering me around. I just wanna build wfs back together. When I read this i agree with everything there. I spend weeks sitting at a tabletypiing up possibilities of names and descriptions for my characters. and to find out that nobody ever actually reads the list i just want to go back to using Stuff like Redfur-a red furred she-cat with blue eyes. Is very nice. Rather than think up weeks' work of things like Fadedspirit. A misty grey she-cat with brilliant metallic green eyes that seem to be able to light anybody's heart. She would never walk away from an injured, starved or weak cat. She wants to help people because she didnt want them to suffer like she did. Compare those two and look at the differences. And I have noticed people have been really offensive to the newbies. Calling them names. Making them want to quit WFS. And most of all cussing them off. I will admit i have been mean to some but then i realized i was once yelled at and pushed around and sometimes i still am.I have considered leaving many times but then i dont cuz think of WFS as a priceless artifact on A tall structure. Everytime somebody leaves that structure gets weaker. Admins and Mods are the main bases that are keeping it up. Writers are supporting the main base and the RUs the most important part is the structure itself and every time somebody leaves it takes out a piece. It may not seem vital but soon WFS, the priceless artifact will fall and break. And WFS will meet its end. So I say that Keep Roleplaying Keep our site Strongand Dont EVER give up even if you seem you're not needed. I wanted to help be a Main base and keep WFS up but i've been discouraged. And the chats. We have the random chat and we have the RP chat. We RP on the RP chat.Once a Week or so. I am tired of trying to keep people happy and have them push me away cussing at me and telling me they dont want me there. Then i feel im wasting my time. I have put myself on gathering nice members and im trying to rebuild WFS's structure. I feel RP has dropped by alot. I used to not be able to reply to a thread fast enough and now im the only one who replies until the next half hour. I met Howlz on a site and she told me why she left and i agree with her reasons. If I were howlz i wouldve left too.I also feel people are taking advantage of others. Some Mods= im not saying all of them have been modeling people like clay MAKING them do stuff. and i say in RL is that if u hate somebody its just another part of your heart hating. so please join me Keep your heart open and if u ever see anyone being bullied dont be afraid and step in. And making someone feel bad is just to feel good. The truth is that person you bullied is better than you and you can cuss at me whatever. Treat me as your ragdoll. I dont think i will ever leave WFS. i will stay hold it up so if you think u can take advantage of anybody well you should know you're only doing that to make YOURSELF feel good. So to you bullies please stop. And if you're ever unhappy please know that i will always be there
Nightmist
A WFS Writer
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I remember when I first joined this site. I loved it so much that I even got some of my siblings to join. But now...I'm not so sure. I found lots of other sites created by the friends I met here that I now realize that this site is falling apart. There's fighting every other second. When we first joined this site there was 5 of my siblings including me sharing an account because we shared an e-mail. Now if you look at our account you'll see, only me and Amber are left. I joined this site because I loved reading warriors and I always had a great imagination and wanted to be a writer. Now I'm wondering what I was thinking that year and a half ago. I hate that everyone keeps cursing and fighting with each other. I know that even more now, for in recent events I had gotten into a fight with someone that is my best friend over a site my sister made. I just wish everything would go back to normal, like when our only troubles were the hackers that we fixed in an instant. But now we have the chats, how many times have I gone on the RP chat to see people just talking then when someone asks if they can all RP the others scream NO and call that person names and insults them? WAY to many times. I brought back my first RP character in the past couple weeks to show that I want this site to go back to the way it was. I think everyone should work together to get it back that way. Like I read in an above letter, I would like to look back on these days when I'm 30 or 50 and say," Those were the Golden Days. Those were the days that started my writing career." So many times has my crusor hovered over the cancel membership button, but the only thing that stops me is that I know that I have so many good friends on here like Windcaller, Okamiheart, and HowlingWolf, that I know that if I clicked that button I'd hurt them all. And above them I would hurt my best friend Wolftale. She left this site because she was accused of so much and everyone started hating her when she already has so much drama and hardships going on in her life. We led Midnight Pack together, but when she became less active due to things in her RL life, she killed off her Drappa. Just a few weeks ago she told me she is glad that she picked me for Dragga, because Midnight Pack is the only page she can recall that hasn't changed for the worse. I've gotten a few hatemails saying that she's evil and I shouldn't be friends with her, but you know what? She IS my BEST friend, she IS a person I would LOVE to meet in RL, and she ISN'T a person who would purposly be cruel and insulting to someone, without a dang good reason. More then once we've both stepped in on someone being bullied, and people have stepped in on ME bullying someone. I thank them for that, because they keep me in check and remind me that even though I'm having a really bad day and this is my only escape, I can turn this into my personal hell too, and I shouldn't bully anyone for saying the wrong thing to me. Sure I can tell them that wasn't nice and that I'm having a bad day, but I should never bully them. Neither should anyone else. I think we should have a page that we can all go on and just vent out all our problems on, and maybe have others help us through the hard time. Think about it, thats like killing two birds with one stone. We're venting out are anger so we're less likley to take it out on others AND our activness in threads would skyrocket! (because we all know we would use that page) And if anyone needs help with a problem, I don't mind having the extra message in my inbox everyday, I'm on almost everyday and I care about what happens to our memebers.
Jaykit A WFS Writer
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Okay so I just joined this site, and all this is really kinda scary. I knew a member, Sunstep, she was an RU until she left. I met her on the chats and she didn't fight. But then she told me she was leaving when I asked her what clan she was in. I asked why, and ya know what she said. She said "Because things here aren't the same." I took that into consideration. Things were once better I thought, so it isn't just me who is tired about the fighting.
And now all of us are tired.
Seal Heart, A WFS RU
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So, I think WFS is kind of taking a large plummet south. So many good things are going bad fast. The mods+ are ignoring the writers and RUs, and they don't know it. I know pretty much all the moderators and admins, and I know that they wouldn't purposely ignore someone. They're all very nice and friendly. I know that as a fact. But I think all of us mods+ are too used to making the desicions. That is one of the reasons that this site is going down hill. So, I really think we need to start using that suggestion page we made. Through that, we need to let everyone else decide for once. We are the site matinence, not the site desicion makers. Yes, we do have the banning and promoting abilities, so we do need to make a few decisions on our own. Sure, we've been here for a while, and we know the site like the back of our hand. But I bet there are more than just a few RUs and writers who know WFS just as well, and maybe even better than we do. So that's why we also have to trust eachother to make good decisions. Not saying that everyone's gonna make good decisions all the time--we're not perfect. But trusting the lifeblood of this site--the RUs--to make some decisions will help us TONS. That would mean less arguments, for one thing. Another thing is, don't you think that the RUs would want the best for the site they come to have fun on? So don't you think that they would have some sense of what sounds most fun to them? I think so! I mean, they may even have more sense than we do--they don't have as many other things on their minds as we do. So that's one thing I have to say.
Another thing is, our strictness and our deleting pages. Not good. Guys, guys, guys. We need to hold up on the deleting the pages! It's just not healthy for the site! I mean, if no one uses the page anymore, it's useless, a dead weight, then of course, delete it. But if people still like it, then we should at least have a vote on it. That's part of the trust that we need to build. Let the RUs decide that, too! They're ultimately the ones who use that page. So please, just because a page isn't "Active" enough for a handful of mods+ doesn't mean that people aren't enjoying it, and it doesn't mean that it isn't good for the site. So we should definitely consult the lifeblood of this site when deleting pages.
Now, here's my little message to the RUs. You guys are awesome. But you must understand, that we are trying our best, and that we do have lives outside of the computer. I just want you all to understand that we are trying our best, and that we really do care for you. It may not seem like it at times. It may seem like we think you are mere dust, or something. But that is opposite from the truth. You are teh lifeblood of this site! Without you it would not exist. I just hope you all know that we are trying. We discuss so many things in messages, we argue for what's best for the site, we spend a huge margin of our time here, we are dedicated to this site. And we really want what's best for you and the site! And nao, we are going to listen to you and see what you think, what you want. But let's face it, we're not perfect, and we're only teenagers--we haven't even reached adult hood, and yet we are making adult decisions! So that means that we're not going to be the best all the time. I just hope you all understand that, every single one of you, even those mods+ out there. Writers too.
Now, here is my bit of encouragement. We've all been through hard times, on this site and in our lives. Life isn't life if it doesn't have hard times in it. But guess what--we got through those hard times, didn't we? And really, this time period isn't the hardest in the site, in my opinion. You just ask someone who's been here a while--I'm quite sure there have been other downs on this site. But we will get through this! All we have to do is straighten our backs, think positively, work hard, and do our best. Before we know it, this site will be number one activity level, the most fun to go on, pretty much everyone's nice--the golden days will have been recreated. Restored. Revived! Nao, let's stop saying bad things and get to the postitive! THat's what gives us hope! so everyone, focus on the now, and be sure to work hard, do your best, and always be the light for everyone else, including yourself. Amazing things will occur--I promise you that. Now, go out and enjoy this wonderful site. Thanks for reading,
Silverwake, a WFS administrator
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I remember when I first joined and everything was so much better and brighter. The mods+ were mostly thankful and nice to all the RUs and writers and I was friends with a lot of them, and most of them weren't the new mods+ that are present in WFS today, recently promoted to whatever rank. I worked really hard to earn my spot as a writer, I was nice to people and I was very active, but I noticed the world around in WFS seem to go faster, people began to get promoted really quickly, and now I think it's WAY worse. I see people getting promoted to writers so quickly, not to mention mods. I'll look at a mod or writer's profile as what they currently were and then I check a week or two later and they're mods and admins! And then when they're mods they do anything, as some of you've mentioned before me! And I'm sitting here wondering what happened to the people who really earn their positions and are ignored for it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining in ANY way of my own rank, in fact, I'm proud to be just a writer since I hear how stressful it is to be higher ranked, and I'm best friends with people like Foeseeker who greatly earn their high ranks and Hawkpelt, but for those of you who are just promoted as quick as the blink of an eye, it's ridiculous. And I agree how most of the mods+ look down on us, and I think that's unfair when we were our butts off to save this place. Yes, I was absent for a while, but that was because I thought WFS was over, it was obviously falling apart, piece by piece, and yes, I may not be the master writer of all time, but that's just because I'm cautious of what page I edit since I'm careful with what I'm suppose to do and what I'm not.
It's stupid how mods+ will snap back on how RUs and writers express their opinions on how this site IS falling apart, and yes, I will admitt some are hurtful and unnecsissary, but I'm afraid to reply on some in case I say something wrong and get banned! Quit being so hotheaded and listen for once, because every user on this site has a right to express their opinions and suggestions, and I'm tired of mods+ snapping back with excuses like "You get stressed when you get 800 messages a day", really, and I hate messages too, but let's remember that this is a roleplaying fansite not a real life job! You shouldn't get so stressed about having two messages in your inbox every day that you have to treat people like idiots for it! I feel like I've been treating like an idiot by higher-ranked people for making mistakes, and I do get embarrassed because of it, sometimes people don't like to be treated like they don't know anything.
Also, with the laziness of editting the page, I don't get it. This is why people shouldn't be promoted so much because they can't finish activity checks and let adding a cat slip their mind until it never happens! Responsibility is something that should be tested in all RUs and writers and mods to see if they can handle the job to keeping things in order on WFS, something that hasn't been enforced lately.
I know isn't a side most of you have seen from me. I'm not the type to try to put people down at all, I just want to help WFS stay alive like the rest of you. I'm lucky in a way I don't get hate mail or most of the disrespect others are given, and those who are treated unfairly are the ones who I'm trying to help. Remember that the letter I wrote does not apply for all of you, just some, and I appreciate the people fighting for WFS and Foeseeker, Hawkpelt, Tawnywing, and Sandfang, some of the users I respect the most.
Hang in there and please help
Arrowheart28
A WFS Writer
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I was horrified not all that long ago when I discovered a huge fight going on with a number of mods+, writers, and even an RU or two involved. One of my best friends here, Lunar_Angel_Demon, was in the center of it. And she was being attacked by a large number of people in the argument. She almost left as a result of it, and I realized just how rotten this place has become. Because of that fight I held grudges for some time against several people, avoiding them purposefully on threads and once getting heated on a message sent to all moderators. It was horrible.
We're becoming too classed. RUs are isolated away in one group, writers are sorta in between, and the mods+ are perched on the top of their ladder staring down their noses at the rest of the site. As a moderator myself - and also a not-too-far-in-the-past RU - I remember how angry I got when it took forever to get a cat added or I had to message someone ten times to get them to respond to me. It's a case of anti-cooperation. We're not working together, and this site is gradually falling apart because of it.
RUs: you're the lifeblood of this site. Without you, where would we be? Probably stuck editing pages the livelong day. We mods+ forget just how much you do for this site, from RPing cats to giving awesome ideas for plots and new sections to us. I just wish all the mods+ knew how much we need you. Please just be patient with we mods+; we have so much to do, and we try to do our best. Just give us some slack and we'll try even harder.
Writers: you're like the stage crew for this site, working in the wings and between scenes without really being seen much. You give us so much help, yet we don't realize how much. Forget becoming a mod+; you help us so much already it's as if you already are one. Please just give the mods+ a good hard kick next time we stall and stick in the works. Thank you.
Mods+: I'm going to mix punishment with praise here. We're too arrogant for our own good. We fight with each other, ignore and even attack RUs and writers, and act too stuck-up for our own good. I know I sound mean, but I'm just putting the facts down. I know that you're what make this place run, but do please try harder to be NICE about it! And listen to the RUs; they're not stupid like we act like they are. That RU you just got mad at could be a future admin. Think about it.
The point of my letter is, guys, we need to work together. A Clan doesn't survive it its members are too busy fighting themselves; it's the same with this site. So next time you see someone of a different rank on a thread, see if they want to have their kit go on an adventure with your kit. Try to get to know them better; you'll be surprised how much more open to the site you'll become.
Foeseeker, WFS moderator
l e t t e r e i g h t e e n;
When I first joined it was about a year ago , and everything was different.It was called the golden ages for a reason....everyone was happy and people barely fought and if they did fight they were tiny, insignificant . This place felt happier and bubbly.I went on so much because I wanted to be part of that , we were like a family .Now I'm active because I want to fix things.WFS is crashing down , it's being torn into pieces for TONS of different reasons.Some mods+ do seem to look down on others so in some for the RUs and writers mind every mod+ seems that way.Well they're not.
The moderaters aren't terrible evil selfish people and RUs aren't unimportant peices of nothing.We are equal.We have to learn that or this site is going to fall apart andI don't think it can be fixed if it does that.
All I'm asking is .....
Just realize that we are all equal and that we all have feelings and good ideas.
It's not hard.
Together.Forever
Just like Leon said
Danmeg , just an RPer who wants things to be right again
l e t t e r n i n e t e e n ;
Hi I am a Registered User, and I just wanted to let all you other RU's know that QUITTING JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET PROMOTED SUCKS!!! There, I got that out of my system. There are plenty of ways you can contribute without being a Writer+, and just you wait, the day might come that you are unexpectedly promoted! And if you aren't you can still have all the fun in the world RPing!
Don't despair!
Stellardancer
l e t t e r t w e n t y ;
I agree with a lot of the things said here. When I first joined WFS a year ago this site was crazy roflmfao fun! On the chats people would be talking and rping with barely any arguments. People were really active on threads too. But then people started leaving and things slowly started going downhill. Remember when the chats were taken down? That wasn't fun. Awhile after they put the chats back up, the vibe kinda changed. Am I the only one who noticed that? Anyways, now its so quiet here. I feel like everyone around here is waiting for someone else to do something bout WFS, but no one is really doing anything. Tiz sad. D:
Silverblossom
l e t t e r t w e n t y o n e ;
After reading all this it reminded me of a site i quit. Wcc2New and CLassic. Some people are People lose there grip and get mad. Trust me i know how that feels. But guys here At WFS it is alot better then those site combine and heres why. You guys are way more responsible about things and thre is no fighting that i have seen since i have been here. On Wcc2 there were fights all the time. and on classic if it was over positions or it was over something like A tornado killing a cat. Saphirepool is right our cats grow into old cats they can never live for ever. WFs is the site i love to rp in. i might know so little of you but i am willing to get to know you. But Let me tell you guys this Wcc2 Will most likely fall because people are getting tired of the drama. You guys keep up the amazing work that keeps ppl here no matter IF you dont get a position. Positions arent important. It is the Rus that Rp. if all us Rus were to disapper this site would have nothing. Same thing goes for Mods and the Admins you guys have a job to do and you must uphold that job. If can not let some one know and asay i am not cut out for it can i be demoted. Trust me being a mod is not always what is protrayed to be. But Rus If your ignored Make your self be heard in appriote manner.We all have a choice wether it be good or bad. The chose is yours and you got to make it some time. Just rember that =).
This site is the best Rping site that i have been on along with another one.
Dante6500
l e t t e r t w e n t y t w o ;
It was more active and fun when i joined 4 MONTHS a lot lot of people on here where active,now as im writing this the three pages i go on to rp,there hasn't more than maybe 2 replies since i replied what 5 hours ago,im sad now.Im tired of being on when there is no replies,and this is the 4th time ive been on today,and i replied to those on my first time today,so i hope that WFS WILL WAKE UP!
~A really sad and almost crying while writing this~
Fernystarzoftehiceyclanz
A WFS RU
l e t t e r t w e n t y t h r e e ;
i dont know HOW i should feel about this page. I think its very sweet that youre doing this but srsly. When ever someone found out that i had cancer and couldve DIED theyd be like 'PPFT! yea watev!' and start hating! even those who believed me wouldnt care. What makes these people any more important? Only TWO people said get well to me and they QUIT because of the **** that happens on this site! Im so sick of it and yet i dont quit because i have a feeling that the old wfs WILL come back. The past repeats itself and im certain it will this time on the account of what the staff are doing now. but srsly. if yu didnt have this oage id have no idea whats happening! On the chat box mods+ still harrass. Its only on these kind of pages that theyre actually nice to people. I cant help feeling that u guys think that ru's r just peices of **** and yu can USE us! im so sick of it! If you want the old wfs to come back you dont need to stand around, make pages, and slooowly do it. JUST DO IT. IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO BE NICE TO PEOPLE!?
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i dont want to stoop to the level of some ppl here so GET WELL! :D
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y cant some ppl here be like this? Despite your anger you can still show kindness to one another. It breaks my heart to see this site crashing and try to hide the fact by putting up 'nice' pages
A very confused and outraged member
l e t t e r t w e n t y f o u r ;
WFS does not deserve number 4 in the Wetpaint 500. What has this site come to? Fights, angry people leaving, and useless messages that we really don't care about? I joined this site because of its reputation. It was fun, active, and had many varieties of what to do. I was on everyday, striving to be a writer. This was my first wetpaint site that I joined. I rarely go on anymore and currently have over 350 messages that are useless and I refuse to check. WAKE UP WFS!
Braveheart
l e t t e r t w e n t y f i v e ;
Without RU's, what would this wetpaint site be? Nothing! Wake up WFS and stop ignoring the RU's and treat them like they are living beings! We NEED RU's to keep the site up and running! Don't treat them like dirt and kick them around. Its like everyone is giving up on WFS and leaving. Even the RU's. We need them. Even the writers. Do me a favor, Mods+: STOP IGNORING THE RU'S AND WRITERS!
Mysticalstar1912
l e t t e r t w e n t y s i x ;
Look you guys, without the Rus you would have nothing. Basically, there would be no cats, no threads, and no fun. I'm not saying that Mods+ cant do this alone, but come on! Do we really want this site to crash and burn?? Now i'm not saying that Rus are best... i know that the mods+ are important too. I'm just saying that the Mods+ should be nicer to the Rus and not ignore us. There are some nice Mods+ out there, they just need to participate. To make a long story short, the Mods+ are just being jerks by thinking that RUs are not important. Well, i don't mean any offense or anything but I just thought that us RUs need to speak up and the Mods+ need to wake up.
Wargirls, RU
l e t t e r t w e n t y s e v e n ;
I know I'm only like a month old;
And I've heard a lot of you speak of the Golden Days. When the site was a better place because there were less members, and less fighting. That you could act stupid and nobody would care, and everyone felt welcome here. Why can't we act stupid? Act as silly as you want! If you do it more often, you won't feel weird about it. Also, to make it seem like there are less members, delete the ones who haven't been on for over two months or so.
RUs like myself, you aren't treated that bad. It's not like the mods+ ignore you, they just have had more time with the other members so they know them better. That, and the fact that they're 500 times busier! And newbs, again, like myself, you probably feel much more ignored. You don't know what the heck anyone else is talking about. But... try not to post 5 threads on the homepage when you first get on, like I did ;P
If WFS does get better, maybe it won't be like the Golden Days, but it might be like... the Bronze Days. Not as good and shiny, but better than nothing. Don't complain about what can't happen-- if you want the member numbers to accumulate, you have to deal with this. The site isn't going downhill, there's just more members, and the members that have been here for a while are close-knit and protective of this site. That must be the leading cause to the fighting.
Wake up WFS.
Wildfeather
l e t t e r t w e n t y e i g h t ;
As the previous letter said, members talk alot about the Golden Days. Alright, you miss the days when people were nice to each other, people didn't leave as often, WFS was a place for fun. All, I can say is you bought this on yourself. If all you do is complain, of course people aren't going to be nice to you, then people get upset and leave, causing it not be so fun. Personally, I believe in Karma. So if all you do is complain and say how bad the site is now, the site will become bad, and people will leave and not like you. But if you talk about the good points, peole will be happier, therefor the site will become better. When was the last time a mod+ sent out a message saying something like, 'Despite what people say, this site is great. I mean, how often do you get to talk to people in a different city, state and even country without trouble and for free? I've made great friends here, and I am so grateful I joined.', I cannot actually remember an message like that.
No onto the sticky mess of the relationship between RU's and mods+. Eventhough people complain about this all the time (it has been improving, I will admit), Mods+ still don't listen to RU's, or should I say, don't want to listen to RU's. Today, Wednesday 2nd September 2009, I saw on a thread about stoping apprentices having kits, this written 'u should have a vote against it or with it, but all the RU's will vote against it so it should be a MOD+ vote'. I realise now that that was written by a writer, but that writer is a popular choice to be a mod. I don't know how else I can put this, this person wanted a major part of the site desided by mods+ instead of the people who are going to be efftected by it decide. That doesn't seem right to me. Mods+ are making so many decisions about the site without even notifing RU's. Such as the 'Other Cats' section, what ikf we didn't want the city part? But you added it anyway, so it could become completely unactive, then you'll moan at us, becaus we're not active on a part which you don't even know if we want or not.
Y'know what the worst part is? Mods+ probably won't read this, or half of the letters, and even if they do, they probably won't take action on them.
So what do we do? My view is, vote. Vote for a new set of Mods+. And to make it fair, everybody who is a writer+ goes into the vote. The top amount of people, are premoted, then all writers can stay as writers and then have another poll to decide what to do with Mods+. I know what people are going to say 'But I like this mod, I want them to stay', they can, if enough people vote, for them, but if most people thnk others could do better then they get voted in. Like an election, but we do it, let's say, once a year. Some people will desigree with it, but all I can say to them, your going to want a mod+ to be demoted, and this way they could.
Moonmark, Writer(then), Moderator (now) who didn't mean to write a letter so long.
Part 2
Recently I have been promoted to a Mod. I still support what I said in the least letter. The only way i can explain itis by comparing it to my school mentor groups~ It's a vertical learning thing, where a form is divided up into threes and we meet in groups everyday, in it there are yr 7's to yr 13's. In mine, yr 10's to yr 13's kinda band together, and tend to contribute, but everybodyelse sits around. What I've found is Mods+ with a few writers and RU's are the yr10's to yr 13's, they add more to the site, but we ignore the Ru's and some writers.
But, we have a hard time. Mods+ get less credit than they deserve. We do try, I can see that, we're trying to bring the site together, and yes we are listening, but we should get more involved.
l e t t e r t w e n t y n i n e ;
What to say first. Oh gosh, I seriously don't know. Okay you know what, lets start with something simple. Where's all the love gone, you guys? I remember the "golden days" [that now don't seem so golden], when everyone got along, and when discrimination amongst ourselves was unknown. When all of the mods treated the RUs as they treated the rest of themselves, and the RUs respected the mods. But now, that's unknown. Gone; perhaps for forever. Now.. Now I just don't know. People send hate messages just for the fun of it, and hardly any of the mods are friends amongst themselves--let alone the registered users. And becomming a mod isn't based on experiance or trust anymore--only friendship. I only know this because if I wasn't friends with most of the mods+ I probably wouldn't even be mod, or a leader. These days, it's all about connections and friendship. Who finds that fair? Not me. You see, if I wasn't on the hated list amongst the greater part of mods+ I would complain to their faces, but I'm chicken. There. I'm chicken. Once someone gets into the position of power, they don't want it gone. That's another thing that sucks.
Onto subject two; people leaving and fighting. Everything on this site has gone so down-hill lately that everyone's leaving. Ambersky, Leopardtumble, Reedriver+Salmonclaw, and many others. At one point a few weeks ago, I was thinking of leaving myself. But I changed my mind, unlike half of the people. I've been trying to be onthe fence about all of the fights going around lately, but it's just too much. The fighting gets to a person, you know? And now everyone's tempermental and pissy, and I can't trust over half of the people on here anymore since they're been treating each other this way-- or vice versa. I'm so sorry about everything that's been going around, and it's just so hard to not get into fights anymore. Stop bringing real life ordeals into this, and we won't have these problems!
Subject three; we need to start roleplaying more. This IS a roleplay site, isn't it? It used to be all RP, hardly any drama. Now its DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA ROLEPLAY DRAMA DRAMA Fish. Not cool.
Okay, I know that most of you won't read this, and those of you who do won't give a rat's a*s, but we've got to straighten up. WAKE THE HECK UP, WFS.
wfs moderator, toast[;
l e t t e r t h i r t y ;
Dont you all see? We just need to be friends, we are all so mean to people, we are always hateful of someone we are always dis-including someone because they are horrible, or you dont like them, but people dont know how far a bit a kindness can go. I think thats our biggest problem. We are mistreating one another, but we just need to be calm, and friendly to one another - and be kind. Since when was the last time you where kind to someone? Do you think you could go a whole day without getting angry? Since when was the last we, on WFS and in life acutally have an open mind to one another, and be kind - not cutting other people out? I know we have privacy and such - but would it be that hard to make the extra small effort to make someone feel wanted? People are constantly quitting because people usually stop the thread immediately as someone who they dont want replies, or shoves them out with mean words - this drives people to the drama, to quitting to many things that are shaking WFS. The smallest things could have the biggest impact. This isn't their fault they just pick the wrong times. Dont you think you could make a small exception? I mean you dont have to do it all the time and I know some acutally invade on threads that say 'Dont reply unless your ____' but I mean put it on the thread 'Breadstick Only' in the title or something to warn people. I mean at least you tell them ahead of time. Then people wonder why 'unwanted' people butt in. I guess what I'm saying is you just need to warn people, and just be kind.
Shack_Attack - A person who wants kindness back
Shack_Attack - A person who wants kindness back
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This site is good... but people come on here that are mean and rude and ruin everything... People have been on here long for like 3 years there good hard working people but they are still registered users...... Mods and Admins are becoming lazy and not going on..... They dont hire the good working people that come on to this site to help.... People don't understand some people come on just to ruin things and hack things..... For the Admins and Mods that have been on here and want to help good for you guys! But for the lazy Admins and Mods I don't think they deserve to be on here......
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| Wolftail890 | yesh... | 0 | Sunday, 5:29 PM EST by Wolftail890 | ||
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ah, yes, the Golden Days, the days that ended a few months or so after I first joined this site... Those were so wonderful. We had only cats- cats with realistic descriptions and no magical abilities. Nobody hardly ever fought, everybody was friends, and coming onto this site was fun. That was so awesome...until some unknown couple of dipthongs decided it would be awesome to make Naruto/Pokemon kitties with magic powers that attacked everything that moved and acted like ******* to all of the people who came onto this site to have fun and make friends. Now everything's complicated and angry.
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| Cosmickit | :'( | 0 | Dec 9 2009, 3:57 PM EST by Cosmickit | ||
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Solah misses all the good people/admins/mods/writers that were his friends... Amber & Tawwny & Leaf & Sandy & Pearleh & Fleety & Firezzz D':
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